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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Sometimes, but not generally. What’s the rule for a attacking an entrenched position? Rule of Thumb: you need six times the forces. We traditional idealists, aka conservatives, are getting vigger and bigger yets we ain’t a 6 to their 1.

Nor does special ops work well — in a social warfare context the sappers and infiltrators get co-opted.

I’m of the gee I don’t know what to do but pray and persist and never never never give up mode.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 3:10:21 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

I went to a Tea Party about a month ago....2000 people there. I signed a few petitions.

NO ONe was gathering names, ph numbers, or email addresses —no one asked.

so that whole effort ended that day. If we had that data we could get MORE people involved.


13 posted on 10/21/2009 3:13:42 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: bvw

I was in Panera Bread last night and there were 20+ people have a grass roots political meeting. They did not dress or look like Obama supporters. No t-shirts like ACORN.

They were 50 to 70 and looked half stunned and pissed. My guess is they were conservatives or moderates who knew they were going to get screwed by Obamacare. I tried to hear what they were saying but I only got bits and pieces.

Some people are waking up.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 3:14:35 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: bvw

In the period of our founding there were such local groupspf people meeting to discuss ideals and ideas. And I don’t mean the Sons of Liberty and the Committees of Correspondence.

I mean what cam before them — the congregations! The news of the day was digested and considered and applied to ideas and ideals for at least three hours each Sunday, by congregations of families and households throughout the colonies.

We have already Sons of Liberty of sorts, and our Committees of Association are these internet forums and blogs like this one.

The piece we are missing is the local congregations. They do not, in our day, have to be “religious” or sectarian. In fact, the tax laws and social customs have co-opted and perverted the value of far too many religious congregation, the value of such establishments in helping rest America to the founding ideal and ideas — that is to establish governments that operate in accord with Divine ideals for government.


22 posted on 10/21/2009 3:35:34 PM PDT by bvw
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