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Forest Grove police: Gun-toting [non]victim thwarts rape
KATU ^ | 16 Oct | Not given

Posted on 10/20/2009 11:48:01 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out

FOREST GROVE, Ore. - Police have arrested a man after a woman was sexually assaulted in her own home in Forest Grove, just west of the Portland suburb of Hillsboro.

Floyd Dale Elliott faces rape and burglary charges after being accused of entering the victim’s home in the middle of the night last month. Police said he then tried to rape her.

The woman reportedly grabbed a gun, hidden near her bed, and started firing.

No one was hurt.

The victim’s friends identified Elliott in the investigation. Elliott was arrested without incident.

UPDATE: KATU’s investigation has uncovered that Elliott is a 53-year-old transient. The woman was 23 years old, and was asleep in her home at the time.

We’re told that the woman grabbed a 22-caliber rifle, fired it in Elliott’s general direction, and he ran off. Police arrested him not long after the incident in his van on Forest Grove’s Fir Road.

Police tell KATU that Elliott did not break in, as other media has reported. Police said the house was unlocked and the suspect let himself in. A burglary charge still applies, since he was not supposed to be there. Police said this is important to note so people in Forest Grove “aren’t thinking some crazy guy is breaking into houses and trying to rape women.”

Police also told KATU that Elliot knew the victim’s friends, and had gone out with them earlier that night.


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1 posted on 10/20/2009 11:48:01 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Your edit of the title added “non” victim.

What’s up with that?


2 posted on 10/20/2009 11:55:05 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1

“Your edit of the title added “non” victim”

Because she was NOT a victim. She had a gun, and so was NOT a victim.


3 posted on 10/20/2009 11:58:09 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Legally, she is very much a victim. The fact that she fought back doesn’t negate that.


4 posted on 10/21/2009 12:01:07 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1

It’s got nothing to do with legally. What words are in a headline doesn’t change her legal status.

They want to turn us all into whining little victims. But this brave girl picked up a gun and did not become a victim.


5 posted on 10/21/2009 12:06:31 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

She is a victim, deal with it. And she fought back.

I think we are having a disconnect here.

The fact that she is a victim doesn’t mean that she is out there trying to claim victim-status....but whether you like it or not, she was a victim of a crime or crimes and did what she had to do to protect herself.

In other words, if you want to argue that she is not a victim, you would have to necessarily argue that the suspect(s) committed no crime.


6 posted on 10/21/2009 12:12:29 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

It is called Entering Without Breaking Without Owners Permission. At least it is called that in Michigan.


7 posted on 10/21/2009 12:18:35 AM PDT by healy61
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To: KJC1

prominent democrat fundraiser John Wayne Gacy had 33 victims.

victim: http://i35.tinypic.com/2u90sc8.jpg

victim means the scumbag won. don’t believe legalist hype. nothing changes the fact there was a crime, least of all a word.


8 posted on 10/21/2009 12:31:16 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I think you just went off into your own world. Have a good...night.


9 posted on 10/21/2009 12:36:30 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Someone needs to get this girl to the range with a handgun her size and give impart some shooting skills.

.22 caliber rifles are not the best self defense weapon. Besides, she missed.


10 posted on 10/21/2009 1:03:16 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: KJC1

The proximity of a .22 rifle and her willingness to use it means she she managed to avoid victim status. She was an intended victim.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 1:40:00 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I’m with you on this one. Her actions definitely kept her from becoming a victim of rape.


12 posted on 10/21/2009 1:41:12 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: tgusa; chuck_the_tv_out

Absolutely. By being armed and using the rifle to defend herself , she saved herself from becoming a victim of rape. We know what you were saying in the title. :-)


13 posted on 10/21/2009 2:23:58 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: arthurus; KJC1

I wonder if she would agree that she’s not a victim? I wonder if the lawyers would agree? I’d imagine she’s quite traumatized despite her ability to defend herself.

Sometimes the positions taken in these threads are idiotic.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 3:17:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Give it a rest.


15 posted on 10/21/2009 3:20:30 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: Royal Wulff

Give what a rest? The idiotic argument that the woman was not a victim because she defended herself.

Or am I posting too much on this thread?


16 posted on 10/21/2009 3:30:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: KJC1
"I think you just went off into your own world. Have a good...night."

Actually, "chuck" is right, and you're wrong.

17 posted on 10/21/2009 3:35:08 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

****Police said the house was unlocked and the suspect let himself in. A burglary charge still applies, since he was not supposed to be there. Police said this is important to note so people in Forest Grove “aren’t thinking some crazy guy is breaking into houses and trying to rape women.” ***

Does the fact that her door was unlocked and he let himself in really mean that some crazy guy isnt breaking into houses to rape women.?? Not to me it doesnt.

However she should keep her door locked. For her own safety.
and she needs some practice with whatever weapon she chooses. I would bet the sound of the rifle being fired had a traumatic effect on the rapists weaponry.


18 posted on 10/21/2009 4:12:31 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Yeah, I found that statement to be very odd.


19 posted on 10/21/2009 4:39:36 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; All
Agree that hse is not a victim (in the sense all of us have in the word).

Great story!

(Women shooters, please email this to your fellow women who may not own a gun!)
20 posted on 10/21/2009 4:44:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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