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Home Construction Bad On Paper And In Reality [The Coming Depression?]
APReport ^ | October 20th 2009

Posted on 10/20/2009 12:55:17 PM PDT by Steelfish

Home Construction Bad On Paper And In Reality

Applications fall, building slows as D.C. discusses extending buyer tax credit

WASHINGTON - Applications for home building permits, a key gauge of future construction, fell in September by the largest amount in five months — a discouraging sign for the housing industry. A rebound in housing is needed to support a broader economic recovery.

Representatives for the industry told a congressional panel Tuesday that the $8,000 tax credit for first-time buyers needs to be extended and expanded to ensure the housing sector will emerge from the recession.

But the Obama administration, facing soaring budget deficits, has not decided whether to support any extension. And some private economists played down the impact of such a move, arguing that most interested buyers already had taken advantage of the tax break.

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1 posted on 10/20/2009 12:55:17 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
Hey, where do I get my toilet paper subsidy? I want my subsidy, NOW. I know Obama has a stash.
2 posted on 10/20/2009 12:56:48 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Steelfish

How do you spell relief? W E L F A R E!

Thank you, Uncle Obambi.

This will end when The USA is bankrupt...any day now.


3 posted on 10/20/2009 12:58:46 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Steelfish

We are at 17% unemployment, we are already in depression. These numbers are going to go higher and Obama will not do the right thing to turn it around because their goal is the collapse of our country.


4 posted on 10/20/2009 1:01:34 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Steelfish
A rebound in housing is needed to support a broader economic recovery.

Not likely to rebound when new houses are being bulldozed in California because there's nobody to buy them.

5 posted on 10/20/2009 1:03:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Steelfish

There is an article in today’s Miami Herald that paints a bleak picture of housing. This is why I am OUT of the stock market until at least November. I think we have not yet seen the worse.


6 posted on 10/20/2009 1:11:30 PM PDT by devane617
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To: Steelfish
A rebound in housing is needed to support a broader economic recovery.

No. The proximate cause of the economic crash was overbuilding of houses because of low interest rates and sloppy evaluation of borrowers.

We need to catch up on the houses we have before we start building more. Otherwise we will be in an FDR style "dig holes and fill them back in" project.

Representatives for the industry told a congressional panel Tuesday that the $8,000 tax credit for first-time buyers needs to be extended and expanded to ensure the housing sector will emerge from the recession.

That's just temporarily pushes up the current price of houses as bidders have $8k extra in their pockets. Sellers end up with more money, buyers have a house that is ready to drop by $8,000 once the subsidy disappears, and the banks can claim that every house in the neighborhood is worth $8,000 more than the real value to pretend they are still solvent.

7 posted on 10/20/2009 1:14:43 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
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To: Steelfish
But...but...but we were promised....

8 posted on 10/20/2009 1:20:24 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

We should not be building more housing until people can afford to buy houses (without subsidies). Duh?


9 posted on 10/20/2009 1:31:52 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Wait, I thought the rec ession was OVER??????


10 posted on 10/20/2009 1:34:14 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Steelfish

Just anecdotally?

Last year, Lowe’s made a big deal of advertising “extended hours”— open at 6 even on holidays... went there Sunday— back to opening at 8.

And boy, were the personnel solicitous when I bought a toilet tank- you’d have thought I’d purchased one of their $3,000 stoves.


11 posted on 10/20/2009 1:43:52 PM PDT by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: DuncanWaring
new houses are being bulldozed in California because there's nobody to buy them.

Please elaborate or provide a link to more information.

12 posted on 10/20/2009 1:58:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: Steelfish

Housing is amazing. If you think about the multiplier it has through the economy. It includes nearly all skilled and unskilled crafts, a wide variety of commodities, and finished products from roofing, to timber, to textiles, to furniture, to appliances, to chemicals... you can go on and on.

What a phony baloney economy.


13 posted on 10/20/2009 1:59:08 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: Steelfish
As bad as residential construction is, commercial is at least as bad. Here in CT most projects of any size have been canceled or put on hold because they can't get any funding. With the raft of new taxes and regulation coming down the pike people are afraid to do anything.

All part of the Cloward-Piven Strategy

14 posted on 10/20/2009 1:59:55 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: hinckley buzzard

Victorville, CA. I don’t see a date, but I remember it being earlier this year.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/around-town/real-estate/Developers_Bulldoze_Empty_Luxury_Homes_in_Victorville_Los_Angeles.html


15 posted on 10/20/2009 2:13:23 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: YankeeReb

But the Nobama Stimulas Projects are building wheelchair ramps on every sidewalk in every town. Must be a wheelchair boom coming, next thing will be 50 handicap parking spots out to the road in every parking lot.


16 posted on 10/20/2009 8:01:34 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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