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1 posted on 10/19/2009 5:02:47 AM PDT by RoadTest
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To: RoadTest

I don’t know how that irrelevant paragraph got into the middle of my excerpt.


2 posted on 10/19/2009 5:04:53 AM PDT by RoadTest ( But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do)
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I'm still trying to determine how much Obama wants some kind of violence as a justification of taking further control.
3 posted on 10/19/2009 5:05:56 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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I find it reassuring there’s a group like this. When push comes to shove, an armed populace has no chance against on out of control military doing the will of an out of control government.

Take notice how anyone who says they will protect the Constitution is labeled as an extremist and a radical, thats the scary part of this article imo.


7 posted on 10/19/2009 5:14:25 AM PDT by eak3
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How significant is this?

Enough so that it should be a litmus test for any candidate running for sheriff.

8 posted on 10/19/2009 5:15:21 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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When backed into a corner, you have to fight.


9 posted on 10/19/2009 5:15:53 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: RoadTest

Here is the Oath Keepers website.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/


11 posted on 10/19/2009 5:17:53 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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How many of YOU are members of Oath Keepers?

Also, remember that Obama called for a "Civilian" army just as strong and well equipped as our constitutional army. This army will be used against people like you and me in our towns and neighborhoods.

Don't think that all of the record gun sales and shortage of ammo is all because of patriots.

If you are going to have a "Civilian" army, it has to be armed right?

I fear and pray for my country.

12 posted on 10/19/2009 5:20:42 AM PDT by bayliving (Politicians are the problem to the solution...)
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“Depending on your perspective, the Oath Keepers are either strident defenders of liberty or dangerous peddlers of paranoia”.

...”Depending on your level of stupidity and lack of education” is how this should start. If you are stupid enough to think we’re paranoid find a good history teacher! Stop attending the “Karl Mark School of Hstory and Economics”!


15 posted on 10/19/2009 5:32:00 AM PDT by albie
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Crossfire soon clears the middle of the road.


16 posted on 10/19/2009 5:33:01 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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Mark Potok said. "But these kinds of conspiracy theories are what drive a small number of people to criminal violence. ... What's troubling about Oath Keepers is the idea that men and women armed and ordered to protect the public in this country are clearly being drawn into a world of false conspiracy theory."

"False conspiracy theory"?

Says who?

19 posted on 10/19/2009 5:35:08 AM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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Somehow I think that if the call was to round up Communists or disarm Muslims then Oath Keepers wouldn’t have a problem with it.


23 posted on 10/19/2009 5:41:06 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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I’m not convinced the usurper-in-chief cares about takeover. When destruction of a nation is the agenda, there are less violent means. Hence, I am the resistance.


33 posted on 10/19/2009 5:52:44 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Here, let me fix that one-way sentence for you.

In the age of town halls, talk radio and tea parties, propagandistic newsmedia bordering on mind control, and socialist policies being pushed from the whitehouse, middle ground of opinion is hard to find.


36 posted on 10/19/2009 5:55:16 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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I took the oath in 1968. As far as I’m concerned I’m still bound to it...it had no expiration date. Just sayin’....


48 posted on 10/19/2009 6:10:37 AM PDT by clintonh8r (My country. Not my government.)
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50 posted on 10/19/2009 6:28:48 AM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Know what? I'd like a wider seat!" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2365436/posts


60 posted on 10/19/2009 12:03:40 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/


63 posted on 10/19/2009 2:14:48 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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I, an American Soldier, took an oath to defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. I never vowed to protect the president, the state, or its laws (other than those which are Constitutional). Therefore, this is a no brainer for me.


83 posted on 10/19/2009 7:50:41 PM PDT by Engineer_Soldier (Rubio for Senate! Charlie Crist is another John McCain.)
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I just posted my oath in the testimonial section.


88 posted on 10/19/2009 8:07:34 PM PDT by Engineer_Soldier (Big government sucks no matter who advocates it.)
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I think it's enlightening to review the Declaration of Independence. I've bolded a few items that seem pretty up to date to me.





IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

89 posted on 10/19/2009 8:11:42 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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