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To: Clint Williams
Actually, the notion of a formally stratified society as proposed by this group ("law-abidiing citizens" being Tier 1 and the rest Tier 2) is an intriguing and useful one. Let's construct one using the principles of this organization, and cribbing a little:
Tier 1: Full grant of ALL rights, enumerated or otherwise. This is an earned tier, available only to those of Tier 2 who have completed honorable terms of service to the state, in particular the armed forces in defense of this country. (Exceptions may be made for such as the Amish.)
Tier 2: All rights except national elections. (Cribbing from R.A. Heinlein here and Tier 1.) Must be natural-born citizens with at least one U.S. national as a birth-parent.
Tier 3: Same rights as Tier 2. Nationalized immigrants.
Tier 4: Denied 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 8th Amendment and all voting rights. Membership in this tier adheres to those who have ever committed any crime or misdemeanor and once a member of this tier no subsequent action may elevate one to a higher tier. (This is in accordance with many FReepers' and others' desires -- sorry about that, Mr. Colson.)
Tier 5: Right? What's a right? Baddest of the bad, scum of society. Selected out of Tier 4 by popular vote. (All sex offenders likely to wind up here.)

Stratified societies work. Just ask the Brahmins. Sucks to be a dalit, but we have to have *somebody* to stomp on. Today it's registered sex offenders, but that's not really enough. Other folks belong down there too.

Sooo... from their stated principle a whole new society.

35 posted on 10/17/2009 10:36:15 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Clint Williams

Honorable service to the STATE? Nice prerequisite, COMRADE.


89 posted on 10/17/2009 1:49:03 PM PDT by fortunate sun (Fight the marxist occupation of America. Support the Healthcare Insurrection.)
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To: Clint Williams
...natural-born citizens with at least one U.S. national as a birth-parent.

You do realize that you're opening an enormous can of worms with that statement, don't you?

Many (if not most) who agree with the platform and purpose of this org believe that NBC is defined as having two US citizen parents, AND birth on US soil.

Count me in that group.

108 posted on 10/17/2009 5:26:13 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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