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To: Lady Jag

It’s a simple as I can make it. Decide out where you want to be, figure out where you are and then devise a plan on how to get from point A to B...realistically.

I’ve read the manifesto. Jeff wants to build a Christian org that is based on most of the same principles I’ve seen rattling around conservatism for 40 years and what has been talked about on this site for 10. The points are fairly clear but there are no specific goals, timetable or strategy on how to achieve it. What I find most alarming, besides the oath one is required to take, is it is mostly based on getting “the right” candidates into the election as opposed to changing the hearts and minds of the voters who will be doing all the voting.

I don’t see anything new, no fresh perspective, no creative gameplan. Most conservatives don’t understand how we got into the mess we’re in and if you were to tell them and layout the strategy for fixing it they would reject it because most don’t want to win, the want to whine and complain about how abused they are.

I’ll give you a hint. For 40 years conservatives have ceded every significant piece of ideological and propaganda apparatus and real estate to the libs. Liberals infiltrating the schools? HOME SCHOOL! Taking over the media? TURN OFF THE TV! California with it’s 52 electoral votes? LET IT DROP OFF INTO THE OCEAN! Moderates getting elected? RUN THE RINOS OUT OF TOWN! GOP not listening? VOTE 3RD PARTY!

Non politician conservatives may talk a good game and are full of bluster (MOLON LABE MOLON LABE!) but when it comes down to the important nuts and bolts of maintaining a modern ideological majority, which includes meeting the enemy at every confrontation, their first instinct is to run and hide.

So when you tell conservatives the first step is reversing the losses are to get the liberal ideology out of the classroom, balance the media and to quit automatically ceding whole sections of the country to the dems they realize how much work that will take, their eyes glaze over and they reach straight for the lazy hail mary pass...SARAH! SARAH! SHE’LL FIX ALL OUT PROBLEMS!


154 posted on 10/19/2009 1:45:48 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Bob J
Bob, nothing in the principles or the other documentation indicates that this is a "Christian" organization. It does refer to God-given rights and I do not apologize for that because it is a fundamental truth that our founders recognized and built the nation upon. So, does it refer to God-given rights and principles? Yes. Does it further differentaite? No.

Clearly Christians can and should feel at home in such an organization...but so should any other sincere people of reason and faith who love liberty and understand the foundational principles upon which it is based.

2nd. The entire effort is meant to focus the citizens of this country, regardless of stripe, on the constitution and on constitutional principles that are directed at the issues of the day, and are meant to be attacked from the ground up. We are not cedeing any ground...otherwise we would not be establishing chapters in all fifty states and the territories.

We know it will be a long haul, and we know it will require building our candidates and support at the grassroots level and giving equal import to the local, school board, county, district, state legislature levels, including local sheriffs and judges. We are seeking to build our support base and our camndidates at that level as well.

It took us a long time to get where we are, it will take us a long time to dig out of it.

Is this a perfect plan? no. But it is a plan and it an effort to get folks focused on the things that really matter and away from sterotype, charisma, hand-outs, PC/party mechanisms, social maipulation, etc.

I believe it can work (obviously), but in order for it to do so, a lot of people have to get involved with it and believe it too. That's what we are trying to do.

155 posted on 10/19/2009 2:54:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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