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To: Bob J
Bob, nothing in the principles or the other documentation indicates that this is a "Christian" organization. It does refer to God-given rights and I do not apologize for that because it is a fundamental truth that our founders recognized and built the nation upon. So, does it refer to God-given rights and principles? Yes. Does it further differentaite? No.

Clearly Christians can and should feel at home in such an organization...but so should any other sincere people of reason and faith who love liberty and understand the foundational principles upon which it is based.

2nd. The entire effort is meant to focus the citizens of this country, regardless of stripe, on the constitution and on constitutional principles that are directed at the issues of the day, and are meant to be attacked from the ground up. We are not cedeing any ground...otherwise we would not be establishing chapters in all fifty states and the territories.

We know it will be a long haul, and we know it will require building our candidates and support at the grassroots level and giving equal import to the local, school board, county, district, state legislature levels, including local sheriffs and judges. We are seeking to build our support base and our camndidates at that level as well.

It took us a long time to get where we are, it will take us a long time to dig out of it.

Is this a perfect plan? no. But it is a plan and it an effort to get folks focused on the things that really matter and away from sterotype, charisma, hand-outs, PC/party mechanisms, social maipulation, etc.

I believe it can work (obviously), but in order for it to do so, a lot of people have to get involved with it and believe it too. That's what we are trying to do.

155 posted on 10/19/2009 2:54:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

I don’t disagree with much at all in your “guiding principles”, that’s not my point.

You’re never going to get your preferred candidates elected until you change the hearts and minds of the voters who will elect them. (I’m assuming you’re going to go after districts that don’t normally elect politicians of your leanings, as all the opposite will do is shuffle the deck chairs). You thinkjust because you put up a candidate that signs your oath that the voters will elect them. Why? What keeps them from electing the tax and spend, big government, welfare mentality politicians (who are going to promise them a whole lot more goodies than your candidates) for the last 40 years?

If we’re going to change this country it can only be done by changing the mindset of the voters and that means first reforming the propaganda machine (schools, media, hollywood, etc.) that has put the opposing mindset in place.
Without that you may see limited success but by and large your candidates just won’t be elected because the voters won’t be inclind to vote for them.

Otherwise you’re just pushing a boulder up a hill only to see it roll back down on you.

I don’t want to make it look like I’m piling on your efforts. i’ve just seen to much of these kind of efforts start and then stall because they’re attacking symptoms and not the root causes of our problems.

But good luck. You’re a fine person and a patriot. I won’t post anymore on these threads about this org.


158 posted on 10/20/2009 11:15:04 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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