Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 10/17/2009 1:59:59 AM PDT by Danae
Obama got the Nobel Peace prize for doing nothing. An international award... think about it. His statement said he considered it a "Call to Action" for global issues.
Is handing off our sovereignty to the world what he meant? It will be US who is funding all these payments to 3rd world countries. Wealth redistribution on a GLOBAL scale. And WE ... US ... The American People are not going to have a SAY in the matter?
This has to be stopped dead in its tracks.
Were so screwed...
Help read the treaty! Its too much of r one person, and its in legalease in some areas too! ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH
BUMP!!
President obama cannot sign any treaty without that treaty FIRST being approved by Congress.
His signing it doesn’t mean jack sh*t.
That is correct, but the House doesn’t vote on treaties. Only the senate votes, and it takes a two thirds majority to ratify an international treaty. So this Copenhagen agreement is DOA in the senate. But I agree with Lord Mockton about “climate change.”
Lisbon Treaty links
http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/full_text/index_en.htm
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/JOHtml.do?uri=OJ:C:2007:306:SOM:EN:HTML
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Just thinking of future potential possibilities:
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DHS proposes standards for private sector disaster preparation
Oct. 15, 2009
http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20091015_3600.php?oref=topnews
The Homeland Security Department proposed standards on Thursday to guide companies and utilities in preparing for disasters or emergencies, but some groups criticized the model as a one-size-fits-all approach that will not work and charged the federal government had overstepped its bounds by dictating how businesses should manage their affairs.
DHS today proposed three standards that private organizations should follow to certify that they have developed a management plan to respond to disasters and emergencies, including how they plan to continue operations.
The standards, which are part of the Voluntary Private Sector Preparedness Accreditation and Certification Program, or PS Prep, outline the roles and responsibilities companies should follow during a disaster, requirements for training employees, how to communicate, information technology requirements and other areas. PS-Prep was mandated under the 2007 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act.
But the guidance met sharp criticism from the private sector. “This allegedly voluntary program assumes one size fits all,” said Bob Dix, vice president of government affairs and critical infrastructure protection at Juniper Networks.
“It doesn’t. The way we manage risk in our respective business environments is different and across industry sectors is different. This is a cure chasing a problem, and the assumption that government knows better how to ensure continuity of operations and disaster response than the businesses themselves is ludicrous.”
DHS published a notice in the Federal Register about the proposed standards, which the American Society for Industrial Security, the British Standards Institution and the National Fire Protection Association established and use.
The first standard encourages organizations to establish a policy and objective to manage risks and deploy risk management controls.
The second standard specifies requirements for creating and operating a process that ensures operations are maintained during an emergency situation.
The third standard provides criteria to develop and assess programs for response to and recovery from emergencies.
DHS requested comment on the standards by Nov. 15.
“This program can help us get to the bottom of the following question that has gone too long unanswered: How much should I invest and where should I invest to meet my responsibilities to my shareholders, my local community and my country?” said Bob Stephan, managing director of government affairs strategy and management firm Dutko Worldwide and former assistant secretary for infrastructure protection at DHS. “In the absence of such a program, determining preparedness baselines, performance achieved and gaps is an open-ended undertaking.”
DHS spokesperson Sara Kuban said the threat of the H1N1 flu virus is an example of why established standards for emergency preparedness are necessary. She said no organization is required to comply with the standards.
Jim Lewis, director of the technology and public policy program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, doesn’t expect the standards to affect businesses and other organizations significantly. “Why do we as a country care? Critical infrastructure companies are one thing, but all companies in the U.S. are another,” he said. “It’s another check-the-box exercise that most will ignore.”
Dix worries about the long-term effect of the standards, which he said could result in acquisition reform that would require industry to meet federal specifications to do business with federal agencies.
“I believe government intends to use this certification and accreditation process as an acquisition requirement,” he said. “So we have a flawed process to start with,” which could potentially drive purchasing decisions in the federal government.
“Congress handed this to DHS, and told them to do this,” said Ann Beauchesne, vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s national security and emergency preparedness department. “Everyone I have spoken to insists this is a voluntary program. They have no desire to make this a regulation.”
Dutko Worldwide’s Stephan argued the program could help, not hurt, industry’s business opportunities with federal agencies. “Many argue that this represents a first step in a future regulatory process,” he said.
“In fact, voluntary adherence to a set of standards officially recognized by DHS could offer potential liability relief [for industry], help target industry resource investments and initiatives, and — if Congress is supportive — drive other positive incentives such as tax relief.”
Its too freakin big a deal NOT to make as huge a stink as humanly possible! If Obama signs away our sovereignty, even if the senate rejects it... he is a TRAITOR to this Nation.
That will be IMPOSSIBLE to hide if word of what this treaty IS gets out.
I agree that we should talk this up, if he signs that stinking agreement. It’s powerful material to use against the democrats in 2010 and 2012.
Most likely, the third world countries are asking for some huge amount of money from the US and EU but actually hoping they can get 2% of that amount appropriated and given to them by the left-wing politicians who currently control the US and EU.
I think this is a dupe.
Just to be clear .. the Lisbon Treaty is NOT what he’s
describing in his speech. Just realized there might be
some confusion.
He’s discussing the climate summit being held in
December in Copenhagen with other nations below.
The Lisbon Treaty is an EU consolidation.
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Per Cindy:
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Note: The following text is a quote:
THE BRIEFING ROOM
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
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For Immediate Release March 28, 2009
President Obama Announces Launch of the Major Economies Forum on Energy and Climate
The President is pleased to announce today the launch of the Major Economies Forum on Energy and Climate.
The Major Economies Forum will facilitate a candid dialogue among key developed and developing countries, help generate the political leadership necessary to achieve a successful outcome at the UN climate change negotiations that will convene this December in Copenhagen, and advance the exploration of concrete initiatives and joint ventures that increase the supply of clean energy while cutting greenhouse gas emissions.
President Obama has invited the leaders of 16 major economies and the Secretary General of the United Nations to designate representatives to participate in a preparatory session at the Department of State on April 27-28 in Washington, D.C. The preparatory sessions will culminate in a Major Economies Forum Leaders’ meeting, which Prime Minister Berlusconi has agreed to host in La Maddalena, Italy, in July 2009.
The 17 major economies are: Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, the European Union, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, the United Kingdom, and the United States.
Denmark, in its capacity as the President of the December 2009 Conference of the Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, and the United Nations have also been invited to participate in this dialogue.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2364330/posts?page=23#23
TITLE WOULD BE BETTER:
Copenhagen Climate change treaty - [GIVES UP US Sovereignty!]
Of course it does.
As big a noise as possible should be made.
However, they will relentlessly pass one such sham thing after another until the evil treasonous deed is done.
And, they will continue the economic and military and even terrorist and war destructions of our beloved Republic as soon as they feel like scheduling the rest of all that in their plans.
The Senate must ratify. They won’t. Much ado about nothing.
We didn’t think they would ran unconstitutional Health care down our throats either did we?
I don’t trust congress and neither should you.
Nope see this link: http://www.examiner.com/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2009m10d17-American-Sovereignty—Obamas-gift-to-the-world
The video and the treaty are at the link
I don’t trust them. But it just seems that if they need 66 or 67 votes for this it won’t pass soon, if ever. Do you know if the treaty is binding on countries who pass it, or will it wait to go into in effect when a certain number is reached?
Thanks for the thread, but I think you can rest soundly on this one.
“treaty - gives up US Sovereignty?”
as a rule, treaties do that.
“unconstitutional Health care”
unconstitutionalcare
(Page 127):Fulfil the implementation of the commitments contained in Articles 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, 4.8 and 4.9 in the context of Article 4.7 of the Convention and be underpinned by the principles of equity and common but differentiated responsibilities. Developed country Parties shall provide financial resources and transfer technology to developing country Parties to make full and effective repayment of climate debt, including adaptation debt, taking responsibility for their historical cumulative emissions and current high per capita emissions.This treaty effectively sets up a global governing body, with the power to demand massive transfers of wealth from the "developed" world (US and Europe) to the rest of the world (the pockets of dictators)(Page 127 )The financial mechanism shall operate and function under the authority, governance and guidance of, and be fully accountable to, the COP, which shall decide on its policies, programme priorities and eligibility criteria, and allocation of resources for adaptation, mitigation, technology and capacity-building and any other function that may be determined by the COP;
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