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To: MNJohnnie; FreeReign; mono; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; mkjessup; ...
Curious why you spend all your time, 100% of it, propagandizing here for the Democrat Party?

If you think I'm spending one hundred percent of my time on FR "propagandizing" for liberal Democrats, you're dead wrong.

I am beholden to no party.

As for the Democrats, clearly they have lost their minds. So, while they are preparing to hang themselves, I say, why not just feed them more rope? The point being, I want them to show themselves for what they truly are, so that they can be beaten down once and for all, so we won't have to keep facing this Socialist bullsh*t every couple election cycles.

As for the Republicans, if they think that they are simply entitled to power (by way of my vote) because they're not Democrats, then they can go to hell.

Both major parties have gotten completely drunk on power and Big Government, and until one or both of them becomes sober again, I have no use for them.

Just remember, the binge drinking is fun, but the hangover the next day can be a real b*tch.

64 posted on 10/16/2009 1:45:37 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: MNJohnnie; rabscuttle385; FreeReign; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; ...
I'm not sure what MNJohnnie is going on about. Anyone who knows rabscuttle's posting history is aware of the fact he posts a ton of threads heaping praise on people like Sen. Jim DeMint (R). I'm not nearly as much as a DeMint fan as he is, but I'm pretty sure those threads aren't "propagandizing for the Democrat Party".

Speaking of DeMint, what's with MNJohnnie's comments about how the RINO will "go to DC and Makes Eric Cantor Speaker and Jim Demint Majority leader". That of course, assumes they're the party choice for the position, so more likely the scenario would be the RINO gets to decide whether to make John Boehner Speaker and Mitch McConnell Majority Leader. When that scenario has come up in the past and the RINO has to be the "deciding vote", they've cast their lot with the Dems. Just ask Jim Jeffords. If the Senate was split 50-50 and we had to "count on" someone like Mark Kirk to crowd the winner, all the Dems would have to do is promise him a better committee chairmanship and he'd vote to make his pal Dick Durbin majority leader without a second thought. RINOs sell out to the highest bidder.

I have caught disruptor's on FR who claim to be "conservative" but constantly promote the RAT party over Republicans, arguing BS like "your average southern Dem is more conservative than any yankee Republican". One alleged "conservative" even went so far as promote Max Cleland for Governor and another urged freepers to vote for liberal scumbag Mark Warner over Mark Easley. I've reported freepers like that to the mods and gotten them banned. Rabscuttle trashing RINOs is quite different from disruptor's here promoting leftist Democrats.

I haven't seen anyone here argue that that Scozzafava's RAT "opponent" Bill Owens is "conservative" or that he'll vote with our side for Speaker. DailyKos simply pointed that RINO Scozzafava is the MOST LIBERAL on the three candidates in the race. That's true. Scozzafava is very far left of center and Owens is slightly left of center and is being careful not to promote any extreme left views. Neither one of them is conservative, just Owens seems to be aware that he's not running in a moonbat district so he caters to the center more. As Hoffman has said, both of his opponents are more liberal than conservative and are unacceptable. That's why we're supporting Hoffman.

It's an extremely rare circumstance that a Democrat candidate is worth voting for over a Republican, but once in a blue moon it does occur (NY's 23rd is NOT one of those times -- Owens would make a lousy congressman too and have to defeated in 2012). But the idea that "any RINO is better than any conservative Democrat" is absolutely wrong. Anyone who watched corrupt socialist criminal George Ryan single handily destroy my state knows that. How would have things been worse under his pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage centrist Dem opponent? Feel free to explain cuz I have yet to see anyone show me how RINO George was "better"

One post made a great point -- alot of "pragmatic" types here yapping about how we must "always support the Republican" actually supported socialist DEMOCRAT Joe Lieberman for Senator. How did that work out? Not only did you throw your support to a RAT, you threw you support to a known hard-left liberal RAT. Talk about pot calling the kettle black. They should have known better than to support Al Gore's running mate.

Another excellent point was raised about our own Chicagolady, a freeper who was nominated for Congress in Rahm Emanuel's vacant seat. She was the REPUBLICAN nominee. So how much $$$ did the RNC and NRCC spend on her race? Zero. So the excuse that they "have to" spend money on Scozzafava because she's the "Republican nominee" doesn't hold water. I don't expect them to endorse a third party candidate, but I find it disgusting that they would spend money promoting a socialist liberal because the NYGOP was dumb enough to run her.

Finally, I disagree with TitansAFC's comments (which are oft repeated on FR) that we should give RINOs a pass if they're running in "blue states and blue districts". The most damaging RINOs in this country have been those "electable" types from "blue states" -- just look at what happened in the last 10 years with Jeffords, Chafee, and Specter. Give Specter a pass simply because he's running in a "blue state"? Hell no! I agree that we should hold our nose for "moderates" occasionally if they're "better than the Democrat", but RINOs like Mark Kirk are either as liberal or more liberal than many Democrats in their own state. Kirk represents a district is northern suburban Chicago that gave Obama 61%. Does that make his Marxist record acceptable? I live in a district in SOUTHERN suburban Chicago that gave Obama 61%, and my DEMOCRAT state senator is pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, and anti-illegal. That's right, we have the same percentage of Obama voters as Kirk, but even our Democrats aren't as liberal as him. Why should I elect someone more liberal than the Democrats I have now?

The bottom line is the GOP is a national party, not a regional party. We have to stand for something. I don't think a Republican has to agree with me 100% of the time, or even 80% of the time, but at the very least anyone who calls themselves "Republican" should support 51% of the Republican platform. If Kirk and Scozzafava want to vote liberal the majority of the time, that's fine, they should be honest and run on the party label they support -- Democrats.

84 posted on 10/16/2009 6:42:17 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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