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Character Assassination Hollywood Kills Off the Movie Hero
Salvo Magazine ^ | Autumn 2009 | Bobby Maddex

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:05:23 AM PDT by AreaMan

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1 posted on 10/15/2009 11:05:23 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
Hero lives a code, but there seems to be no codes any more. As for me I like this one:

Code of the West
by James P. Owen
1. Live each day with courage.
2. Take pride in your work.
3. Always finish what you start.
4. Do what has to be done.
5. Be tough, but fair.
6. When you make a promise, keep it.
7. Ride for the brand.
8. Talk less and say more.
9. Remember that some things aren't for sale.
10. Know where to draw the line.

2 posted on 10/15/2009 11:11:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: AreaMan

I was in High School in the 70s. I remember taking a humanities class, (yep, the hippies had infected the schools by then), and watching “Cool Hand Luke”. We went over the hero versus anti-hero thing. I think it was in the late 1960s and early 1970s when Hollywood first started rejecting heros for anti-heros.

They have it down to an art form now, (pun intended). But they’ve lost their audience.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 11:12:31 AM PDT by brownsfan (The screen name is a misnomer. Cleveland is STILL without a PRO team.)
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To: AreaMan
Somewhat related, there was a recent thread about how women today are attracted to "boys" like Johnny Depp, Tom Cruise, and Brad Pitt, whereas actors used to grow up and portray manliness and that was what women liked. That thread, I believe, blamed the hormones in the Pill for part of the change.

Anyway, it's hard to think of a Gary Cooper or Robert Mitchum who is acting today. A man's man is not popular anymore, and heroes are rarely portrayed, and God has been kicked out of the schools ...

... and we find ourselves in our current mess. Our whole culture has been debased.

4 posted on 10/15/2009 11:19:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: AreaMan

There’s a great documentary about the history of the spaghetti western called “The Spaghetti West” that explains how the “anti-hero” was conceived by the Communist film makers who took over Italian cinema in the 60s and created the entire genre of anti-government, revolutionary propaganda thru movies.


5 posted on 10/15/2009 11:20:09 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Dark Wing

ping


6 posted on 10/15/2009 11:21:27 AM PDT by Thud
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To: AreaMan

Very interesting article.

Some of the best Hollywood characters are in kids’ shows.

I can’t believe, though, that screenwriters live such sheltered lives that they never have an “all hands on deck” moment — a storm coming; the cows are out on the road at midnight; Dad and Mom are both sick and the kids have to do the chores; or even making the play of the game to clinch a win.

What kind of lives do such people live that they have absolutely nothing to write about?


7 posted on 10/15/2009 11:21:53 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (Where are we going, and why are we in a hand-basket?)
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To: brownsfan
When Hollywood does make a movie with a real hero, the movie usually does very well, e.g. The Incredibles, Dark Knight.

I agree that sadly, the anti-hero seems to be the norm.

8 posted on 10/15/2009 11:26:24 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: Kartographer

I think John Wayne summed it up very well in his last movie, “The Shootist”:

“I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to others, and I expect the same from them.”

John Wayne, George Patton, William F. Halsey, Chesty Puller, George Washington, and Robert E. Lee: My heroes.


9 posted on 10/15/2009 11:28:13 AM PDT by fredhead (Liberals think globally, reason rectally, act idiotically.)
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To: AreaMan
I very much enjoyed The Dark Knight, and I was confused by this line in the posting above:

What he doesn’t want is to watch The Dark Knight and see Batman struggling with whether he truly wants to help people.

I didn't see Batman as conflicted at all.

Now, in the film adaptation of LOTR, Aragorn was portrayed as rather conflicted and unsure of himself, which I thought was completely wrong. In the book, he does not question his role at all -- although he does at least once kick himself for not always making the right decision.

10 posted on 10/15/2009 11:30:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: AreaMan
The author is right on as far as she goes but she seems to miss an important point with respect to the people that she is describing. She attributes the shape of storytelling today to “cynicism”. There is. I believe, another layer...FEAR.

The people in control of the main conduits of storytelling today are, like the people in control of pedagogy and the people in control of “journalism” and the people in control of the three branches of government scared to death of the individual. A person who reveres traits of the traditional hero cannot be controlled beyond a certain point. Such a person also necessarily accepts and takes responsibility for his actions and for the condition of his world. (Sorta' like the Founding Fathers.) The only driving "truth" accepted by H'wood today is that there are no real truths.

11 posted on 10/15/2009 11:31:11 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Cloverfarm
I can’t believe, though, that screenwriters live such sheltered lives that they never have an “all hands on deck” moment — a storm coming; the cows are out on the road at midnight; Dad and Mom are both sick and the kids have to do the chores; or even making the play of the game to clinch a win.

I suspect that most if not all of the screenwriters are like the characters seen in Robert Altman's The Player or like the people detailed in Joe Eszterhas' book Hollywood Animal.

I have no demographic data to back this up but I assume most are single or "living together" most likely childless or if they have children they are being raised by "the help" ...again maybe not accurate but my "hunch"

12 posted on 10/15/2009 11:33:44 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan

Thanks for posting this. Very insightful.

An excellent read.


13 posted on 10/15/2009 11:34:17 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Deb

Ugh...d-bag dialectic materialists are like a cancer.


14 posted on 10/15/2009 11:36:24 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, Hollywood has also stopped producing heroines. Can you think of an actress who has the presence of studio stars such as Betty Davis or Katherine Hepburn? Meryl Steep comes close, but no cigar.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 11:36:53 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There was a short time after 9/11 when the hero ideal returned and the nation saw the merit of the strong and manly type of man.


16 posted on 10/15/2009 11:42:14 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (The trouble with trouble is it starts out as Utopia)
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To: AreaMan

My tippiung point was when the Mission Impossible I movie made Jim Phelphs the bad guy. It all seemed pretty pointless after that.


17 posted on 10/15/2009 11:45:54 AM PDT by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: 50sDad

I had forgotten about that...I hated that.


18 posted on 10/15/2009 11:47:37 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: fredhead

I attended the Kanaab Western Legends Round Up last year (2008) in Kanaab Utah. There were a number of my heroes attending, but my wife and I went mainly to met Clint Walker aka ‘Cheyenne Bodie’ and a hero of both of us and good Christian Gentleman. We also met Ty Harden aka Bronco Lane and Hugh O’Brian aka Wyatt Earp, both of who are strong Christian Gentlemen as well.

One thing they all had in common was how they despised what Hollywood has become. I had a hope a couple years ago when AMC did the movie ‘Broken Trail’ and it did super ratings as well as great reviews with the critics that maybe we would see a turn-around, but no AMC just came back with more tales of ‘broken’ heroes as in ‘Mad Men’ and ‘Breaking Bad’ neither of which I have the least interest in watching.


19 posted on 10/15/2009 11:52:05 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: RobbyS
Some of my examples go back upwards of 20 years, but there are some hero movies, and they do pretty well. May not be the greatest "cinema" but are good escapist fun.

Bruce Willis in Die Hard--good vs evil, regular guy rising up against the bad guys

Bruce Willis and company again in Armegeddon. Various characters in Independence Day. In both of the above, good guys rise up and take on a problem in space. And as an added bonus, it is the U S of freaking A, that comes to save the day. It isn't the French, or some African nation, it is US technology and guts that win the day.

Con Air with Nicholas Cage. He is a little bit of an anti-hero--in jail with a bit of a violent streak. But in the end, his Army Ranger skills are rewarded, and all he is trying to do is get home to his wife and daughter. And he has to fight every type of sociopath along the way. The viewer knows the murderers/molestors are the bad guys

20 posted on 10/15/2009 11:54:47 AM PDT by Pappy Smear (Support the presidency, end the policies.)
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