Posted on 10/15/2009 8:44:33 AM PDT by steve-b
Okay okay, one final birther story. Unfortunately for the true believers your leader, Orly Taitz, was fined $20,000 for mis-use of the legal system. Justice Clay Land wrote a 43 page order railing against Ms. Taitz and warned her against misusing the court system to push purely political agendas. You can read the order here (it's pretty scathing).
For any who are not familiar with Orly Taitz, she is one of the leaders of the so-called birther movement who has sought to have the legitimacy of President Obama's election over-turned through the claim that he never provided a true birth certificate and that he was actually not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya (or some variation on that general theory).
Not one to give up, Taitz has kept her fight up to this day, filing lawsuits and generally hectoring Obama with these claims in any way she can. Judge Land just had enough apparently. He said the $20,000 fine is "a deterrent to prevent future misconduct and to protect the integrity of the court."
Here's the thing, basically the first thing they taught us in law school was Rule 11 of the Rules of Civil Procedure. Under Rule 11 lawyers may not engage in frivolous actions, waste the courts time or mis- use legal proceedings simply to annoy people. I think it was arguable that after the first birther suit got thrown out of court before Obama was even nominated the question was settled. To have kept up in this manner for nearly a year after he was elected is just beyond crazy.
Hey Taitz, you lost, move on! You can't go around accusing Presidents of not being citizens without some real proof, and that's exactly what you have, a lack of proof. Move on with your life!
Of course she won't. The birthers are the Right's version of the truthers on the left. These people don't know the meaning of quit. 50 years from now I'm sure of 3 things: 1) People will still think there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, 2)People will think there was a conspiracy and Bush was some how involved in 9/11, 3)People will still think Obama was really born in Kenya and not a citizen of the United States.
Agreed. Long ago, I opined that while this is not a fight that is going to be won, I don’t think we should just forget about it. At the very least, during the next Presidential election, it should be demanded of all candidates.
And rightfully so. The framers of the Constitution didn’t put that part about citizenship in there to fill it out in the way a teenager has to reach a thousand words in a book report. They had valid reasons, and those reasons are just as valid today as they were back then.
I have no intent to forget about it.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
At least try to educate yourself, then you might actually recognize a leader when he/she shows up.
Or choose none at all like you and Steve, and his minions, except to be chief contrarians on a Conservative forum.
And Kennedy's assignation was a conspiracy, covered up with the cooperation of the Supreme Court Justice, and that "Magic Bullet" idiot Specter.
Nah, you need to read my posts since I joined in 98. What I have done is gone Galt.
Literally.
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Obama should have been vetted by the DNC prior to selecting him as their candidate or submitting his name to the 57 states. the 20th ammendment section 3 talks of the president qualifying (ie. NBC and 35+ yrs.) Since congress counts the votes and therefore chooses the president it is their job to verify qualifications. It is documented that V.P. Cheney DID NOT ask for or consider objections from the Senators as is constitutionally required.
The Senate, not congress issued a sense of the Senate resolution, which means absolutely nothing as far as the Law, is concerned.
Interestingly enough they at first included Obama in that resolution, but later removed his name, I wonder why? Of course Steve, Parsy and Dirtyboy, will chime in and say they determined it would not be required in Obama's case because his citizenship was undisputed.
Of course the question remains as to why they thought it necessary in the beginning.
Yada, yada, yada.
You don't have to do anything, so, why do you?
Not to be terribly nit picky, but the Senate is part of Congress. One house is the Senate, the other is the House of Representatives.
You really are a piece of work. I have never chimed in on this subject before, and my issue is with Orly, not the larger birther movement. But you are so cultlike in your thinking that anyone who criticizes anyone in your movement must be the enemy, even when that person has just been slapped by a judge for their incompetence.
I've had a civil conversation on this subject on this thread except with you, but what can I expect from someone who criticizes me without the common FR protocol of pinging me?
Yes, but I don't think the House took up this resolution, it was a Sense of the Senate.
You are right. You do not deserve to lumped in with the others in that group.
My apology.
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