Posted on 10/14/2009 8:09:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz
WASHINGTON – A second Republican senator signaled Wednesday she's open to voting for sweeping health care legislation this year, putting President Barack Obama closer to a historic achievement that has eluded generations of Democratic leaders.
But Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, told The Associated Press that the bill approved Tuesday by the Finance Committee needs substantial improvements to make coverage more affordable, contain costs, and protect Medicare. Nevertheless, she joined her Maine GOP colleague Sen. Olympia Snowe in endorsing the goal of far-reaching changes.
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In Oregon, conservatives occassionally win in statewide elections. Most of the state is actually conservative. Unfortunately, Portland and Eugene the two liberal bastions generally turn out enough ballots to barely tip the elections to the democrats. However, the elections are generally very close. We actually tend to be moderately conservative on statewide ballot measures and such.
It seems that sea water makes for liberalism.....weird huh?
Susie and Pipi -—The go to girls of the dems.
No, just la and sf.
Oregon has always had Eugene and Portland to contend with, but they remained a fairly moderate state. Just in 2000, Bush only lost by a few thousand votes and it took 10 days to determine the final outcome. In 2004, Kerry won by 8 points. In 2008, Obama won by 13.
The influx of Californians fleeing the mess they’ve created is killing Oregon. It’s trended harder to the left in the last decade than any state in the country. I have family in southern Oregon (Roseburg area), which was always solidly conservative. Not so much anymore. It’s a shame, I love the place, but I don’t see any way of reversing its current course. Leftism attacks these states like stage 4 cancer... it’s nearly impossible to stop once it takes over.
Of course the GOP is open.
Party of “no”? I wish.
there....fixed it.
please to leave ‘The Sphincter's’ third leg out of polite discourse....
Someone wave a 20 dollar bill in front of them?
Everyone, it is said, have their price.
For RINO’s to support the other side, it is cheap.
Except he won’t be “fighting” per se. He’ll be floating or swishing to the mics....
Thanks very much for that description of Maine and why people vote the way they do. I’ve witnessed a lot of the rural poverty you described. As for the Massachusetts infection, NH suffers from that as well. Sometimes Vermont uses the Massachusetts infection excuse too but I suspect their problems come more from NY than from Mass.
You’re right, there are plenty of women with conservative values. Probably more women than not. I saw their reaction to Sarah Palin. My wife and also my sister were both very impressed with her.
But I still think that more women are pro gov’t health care than men, but not necessarily liberal.
Although my wife is conservative, our 23 year old son is un-insured and cannot afford insurance, and it worries her more than it worries me, and I think that’s the case in most families. She wouldn’t approve of a gov’t plan, but I think a lot of mothers do.
I think what’s needed is health insurance reform, not gov’t run health care.
Ha !
“Tryannical”.
No, I didn’t mean like Pelosi. I don’t think most women are like her.
I'll conceed that when it comes to our babies, loving mothers tend to think "survival first" and everything else later. Not all women are loving mothers, but a great many are; we would willingly go to great lengths without question or pause for the sake of our children.
When the argument is framed in terms of a greater good or heroic ideal, however, most loving mothers will come down on the side of that ideal. Freedom versus beaurocracy, choice and care versus death panels, etc.
If we want to reach women, we have to speak to their heart. When it comes to their children, that is where their heart is.
I’m sorry for snowe and Collins. But hey the way to remedy the madness is for all the conservatives in maine to move to NH. We can salvage the state and get two conservative senators.
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