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The next crusade - anthropogenic nitrogen pollution - since global warming is going bust, although it still referenced global climate change.
1 posted on 10/13/2009 10:19:30 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Greedy humans, wanting to eat and all.


2 posted on 10/13/2009 10:22:08 PM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: neverdem
Galloway, Erisman and colleagues are developing a web-based 'nitrogen footprint model' called N-Print, the nitrogen equivalent of the carbon footprint.

According to Galloway, even small changes can make a difference: reducing energy consumption at home, travelling less often, and eating less meat (particularly beef) and more vegetables.


Second verse, same as the first...

The goal is control over behavior...the sales pitch is the side show. Live in darkness, eat only sprouts and ride a bike, because liberals think you should. Just keep it down when you pedal by the brightly lit mansions of elected officials, where the smell of filet mignon wafts past the BMWs parked in the driveway.
3 posted on 10/13/2009 10:29:35 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When the riders in the cart outnumber those pulling the cart, the cart stops moving. My back hurts.)
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To: neverdem

If farms can cut down on the amount of nitrogen they need for what they are growing, that’s great. That’s so much less fertilizer that has to be hauled around in the fields.

But on the main, this looks like yet another chicken little scenario.


4 posted on 10/13/2009 10:30:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: neverdem

Can we put these idiot crusaders on an island somewhere so the rest of us can just try to survive in peace?


5 posted on 10/13/2009 10:32:31 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: neverdem

Let’s worry about all the iron that will be in the blood of the billions of people in the future. There is only a 4000 mile wide ball of iron at the center of the Earth. The atmosphere is only 79 % Nitrogen so we will probably run out before the iron is depleted. And what about that asteroid screaming toward us...

Sarc/off


7 posted on 10/13/2009 10:33:53 PM PDT by alpo
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10 posted on 10/13/2009 11:19:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Dissemination of more information to agricultural areas on soil testing would be wiser, but the thieves want to regulate more for other reasons (to kill the competition for their real bosses).


11 posted on 10/13/2009 11:26:23 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: neverdem
Well,...thread on the prior theory:

Lawrence Solomon: The end is near ( global warming scare is all over but the shouting )

12 posted on 10/13/2009 11:27:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: neverdem
yet another microbial process called denitrification, which closes the nitrogen cycle: bacteria living in the deep soil convert reactive forms of nitrogen back into gaseous N2, which then escapes into the atmosphere. [snip]denitrifiers - makes life possible in the open oceans

I, and most gardeners & farmers, innoculate legumes with rhizobia species before planting in areas where they haven't grown for a few years, and that puts them into the soil to fix nitrogen both for the legumes during the current season, and residually for later crops.

Sounds like a similar, but 'reverse', process is needed: introduce marine denitrifiers into, or upstream of, dead zones.

Not a panacaea, and not as simple as this one-step would suggest; but certainly wouldn't hurt to experiment with them.

13 posted on 10/14/2009 1:10:06 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (God wants a Liberal or RINO hanging from every tree. Tar & feathers optional extras.)
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To: neverdem

Great post! I heard this attack on nitrogen earlier.

When will TOTUS proclaim farming dangerous?


14 posted on 10/14/2009 1:57:28 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: neverdem

Shakespeare was wrong, he should have written:

“The first thing we must do, is kill all the scientists,”


15 posted on 10/14/2009 2:29:30 AM PDT by Gator113 (Obamba, Reid, Pelosi, the socialist triad.)
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To: neverdem

These issues should be addressed scientifically, not by assuming they either are or are not true based on what is essentially a political agenda.

IOW, the boy who cries wolf is sometimes telling the truth.

I have no idea whether actual wolves are associated with this particular story. Only a few people in the world have the background to be able to critique it one way or the other.


16 posted on 10/14/2009 2:32:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: neverdem

No, I say there’s too damn much oxygen. For one thing, it makes steel rust. Just think how much longer things would last if we got rid of oxygen. It’s a major component of the infamous dihydrogen monoxide so many people fear.


17 posted on 10/14/2009 2:52:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: neverdem
Nitrogen makes up nearly 80% of our atmosphere so reducing it will have a few problems.

Note Haber while a brilliant chemist, had a more checkered past. His nitrogen fixation process prolonged WW-I as the British naval blockage had choked off the importation of natural nitrates used to make munitions. Haber also recommended the use of poison gas in warfare and personally supervised the first field trials of a gas weapon on the Western front.

19 posted on 10/14/2009 4:43:07 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: neverdem

The CO2 panic is running out of steam. We need a new crisis to justify global totalitarian gov’t?


21 posted on 10/14/2009 6:16:11 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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