Judge Land’s hard on Orly Taitz, Esq. It’ll cost her $20,000

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 10/13/2009 | Jay Bookman

[GoldStandard]

U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land, in Columbus, has come down hard on birther attorney Orly Taitz, fining her $20,000 for willfully abusing her right to practice law. I suspect Taitz won’t have that right much longer.

“The Court finds that counsel’s conduct was willful and not merely negligent. It demonstrates bad faith on her part. As an attorney, she is deemed to have known better. She owed a duty to follow the rules and to respect the Court. Counsel’s pattern of conduct conclusively establishes that she did not mistakenly violate a provision of law. She knowingly violated Rule 11. Her response to the Court’s show cause order is breathtaking in its arrogance and borders on delusional.”

[lentulusgracchus]

You need the latest release of Flash to read that file. Which implies the latest OS, and a new computer.

Thanks anyway.

[lentulusgracchus]

That doesn’t mean that there is not an arguable question on Obama’s status as a natural citizen - it just means she has demonstrated the wrong way to approach this.

So what's the right way, if judges are going to homer for The One like this?

[bustinchops]

I don’t read it that way. The judge stated Taitz had no underlying legal basis in law for the complaint and/or motions and no legitimate cause of action:

“When a lawyer files complaints and motions without a reasonable basis for believing that they are supported by existing law or a modification or extension of existing law, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law,” Land writes. “When a lawyer uses the courts as a platform for a political agenda disconnected from any legitimate legal cause of action, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law.

[lentulusgracchus]

Which corroborates the point that he clubbed her like a baby seal. Perhaps her lack of experience and sound judgment made it easier for him, but at least she tried.

Are we saying on this thread that the RNC is right, that the Boys Downtown have decided these issues, and woe betide anyone who wants a real hearing on the merits, of Obama's qualificiations and citizenship status?

[El Sordo]

Step back for a second and ask yourself this:

Was this fine levied because of what Taitz is trying to do, or was it levied because of how she tried to do it?

[bustinchops]

What’s really unfortunate is that Taitz has tainted any legitimate case that may have been made. Anybody who tries to take up the cause now will be laughed out of town. The “birthers” were considered kooks; now they will be considered lunatics and fools.

I don’t know where ostammer was born, but I would like to know. He may have been born in Hawaii or Kenya, I don’t know. I’d like to know. Now we never will because of the way the birthers handled this in choosing this attorney in the first place. I’m curious as to how that relationship came about. Did Taitz insert herself into the case, or did the birthers seek her out? It strikes me as curious that the attorney who took this up appears to be a nut case. Was that by design? I guess we’ll never know.

[parsifal]

Whoa, just saw this. I hope the birthers read the durn decision so they can understand what we have been trying to tell them.

parsy, who is waiting for apologies from all the birthers out there

[algernonpj]

From the judge’s order:
“As a national leader in the so-called “birther movement,”
Plaintiff’s counsel has attempted to use litigation to provide the “legal foundation” for her political agenda. She seeks to use the Court’s power to compel discovery in her efforts to force the President to produce a “birth certificate” that is satisfactory to
herself and her followers.”

[Mr. Lucky]

Perhaps Orly can appeal the order for sanctions.

Since she didn't go to a real law school, she could argue that she's not a real lawyer and, therefore, not subject to the rules governing the conduct of lawyers.

[parsifal]

Yes they can. Judges can rule on issues of “law.” “facts” are another thing entirely.

parsy, who can’t wait to see Orly’s response

[parsifal]

LOL! Maybe the insanity defense, but I bet Appeals Court will uphold this given the completely stupid nature of her legal claims.

parsy, who is available for birthers who need a shoulder to cry on

[PieterCasparzen]

When the soldier’s orders were changed right before trial, that told the story that the administration was directly involved with this, it is yet another block of absolutely any question regarding this person’s eligibility to serve as President. They will stop at nothing to keep his citizenship a secret.

Judges in this country now routinely allow all sorts of garbage in court, making a mockery of justice. As long as you are left-wing, you’re 99% assured of having a wonderful time in court watching your lawyer and the judge entertain whatever whimsical notions the please to stretch the Constitution like a piece of silly puddy, making anything they want of it to serve their left-wing agendas.

I dare any top lawyer in the country to take this case.

[Frantzie]

We may no for sure with the next 10 days whether Jodge & Marine David Carter is for the truth or for more brave American troops dying for the King of Saudi Arabia’s amusement.

You know intel is being leaked by the moles in the white hut who are Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood back to Al Qeada and the Taliban to kill our soldiers.

[browardchad]

Considering they are both blue chip stocks, one would be hard pressed to find a judge that doesn’t own one or both. Heck, I own both and I bet many FReepers do as well.

Well then, by Taitz logic, you must recuse yourself from this discussion. ;)

[bobsatwork]

...woe betide anyone who wants a real hearing ... - Full disclosure - I am a birther, with a small 'b'. I want to see the original BC, and everything else (how did 0 get into Harvard, etc, etc, etc), but I never believed there was an eligibility case to be made. Not at this juncture (if at all). A sworn in, sitting president is going to be found ineligible? Only through impeachment. And I think that's why no one other than Taitz is pursuing this.

[browardchad]

We may no for sure with the next 10 days whether Jodge & Marine David Carter is for the truth or for more brave American troops dying for the King of Saudi Arabia’s amusement.

OK, you've crossed the line there. Implying that a judge's ruling on a eligibility case brought by a nut job is tantamount to sanctioning the killing of our Troops?

Foul. Fail. Shame on you.

[BuckeyeTexan]

They have no shame. They’re embarrassing FR.

[browardchad]

They have no shame. They’re embarrassing FR.

It's like witnessing slime oozing out from under rocks.

[Pilsner]

I bet Appeals Court will uphold this given the completely stupid nature of her legal claims.

Then she will appeal it to the USSC. When she loses there? The Hague?

[Sibre Fan]

Can a court imposed fine like this be appealed?
Yes, but the question is will an appeals court take it?

As I understand it, she has a "right" to appeal, which means that the 11th Circuit has to "take" the appeal. So, while the 11th Circuit could elect to summarily dispose of the appeal and/or to impose sanctions for filing a frivolous appeal, it has to take the appeal and consider it to at least some extent.

If she loses in the 11th Circuit, she may file a petition for writ of certiorari in the US Supreme Court, although she doesn't have a "right" to appeal there.