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Sunstein: Take organs from 'helpless patients'
World Net Daily via The Woodward Report.com ^ | October 12, 2009 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 10/12/2009 7:51:06 PM PDT by honestabe010

Edited on 10/12/2009 7:57:26 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: honestabe010
Just try it sawbones.

If you abandon the creed of “First, do no harm”, So Will I.

61 posted on 10/12/2009 9:35:22 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: honestabe010

Somewhere, an insane asylum is missing its patient.


62 posted on 10/12/2009 9:41:53 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: XenaLee

The problem is that all the organs interact, if one is out of whack the rest follow.

Those in the last stages of CHF or COPD have nothing that works properly. As do those dying of cancer etc.

And then there’s the age factor. The majority of say hospice patients are very elderly. That too figures into transplant viability. There is an age cut off.


63 posted on 10/12/2009 9:44:55 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: honestabe010
Obama’s Czars are universally sick - sick in the head!

I propose we harvest their sick organs for disposal so the leftist contagion doesn't spread.

64 posted on 10/12/2009 9:48:09 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: honestabe010

Having been involved in organ donation from the brain dead patient’s side, this is an ABOMINATION.

It is difficult enough for family members to render this heart wrenching decision. I cannot fathom them just being told it was for the “greater good”.

This would be the highest form of evil...
akin to being sacrificed on the healthcare altar to the “gods of government” !


65 posted on 10/12/2009 10:28:21 PM PDT by dianed
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To: HardStarboard
Your right. Maybe we should harvest theirs first.
66 posted on 10/12/2009 10:31:47 PM PDT by Peacekeeper357 (Monthly doner since joining FR. Become a monthly doner,now.)
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To: Lesforlife
Ever notice how these death peddlers are never the first in line?

As "donor" never, but as "recipient"? Heh! Don't get in their way!!

the infowarrior

67 posted on 10/13/2009 12:05:13 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Ronin; All
Welcome to the brave new world of Obama’s liberal socialism. Your body is state property even before you die.

Nothing about this man, betrays his 'worst side' nor the evil it speaks to. And, worse; as Obama advisors/aides and czars go; Sunstein's 'ethics' are not unique. Am sure wherever these 'like-minded' gather; the conversation is rich. . .

What we see, so far; appears less than a 'hairs width' from the worst of Hitler's nazi medical protocols. Sunstein would surely defend the use of anesthesia. Don't you think?

68 posted on 10/13/2009 1:23:18 AM PDT by cricket
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To: cricket; Ronin; All
That was supposed to be' By 'his appearance'; nothing about this man betrays his worst side or the evil it speaks to.

(Clearly; he does at least; share his story.sigh)

69 posted on 10/13/2009 1:27:31 AM PDT by cricket
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To: cricket

I think you mean “euthanasia”, but your point is well taken.

This is a horrifying slippery slope.

How long do you think it will be before they decide that harvesting healthy organs from people considered to be social liabilities (such as prisoners and institution patients) for implant into valued citizens (based on their political correctness) is discussed?

Larry Niven discussed this in his “Known Space” series. China actually began the trend of harvesting organs from executed prisoners. Hell, they have even designed special “execution vans” which are actual disassembly surgical suites that ensure nothing is wasted.

We are getting real close to the end of that “awkward stage” Claire Wolfe talked about.


70 posted on 10/13/2009 1:39:15 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: honestabe010

bttt


71 posted on 10/13/2009 2:36:59 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Nachum

Hi. Could you take me off your ping list. It’s good stuff, but too much of it for my available time. Thanks. Mark.


72 posted on 10/13/2009 2:53:17 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: XenaLee
People are misdiagnosed all the time, especially under a communist/socialized, government-run healthcare program. I imagine a ‘vested interest’ in making a terminally ill prognosis might play a part. Especially if there is a monetary kickback for the “donated organs” (money will be tight for doctors under Obamacare).

Visualize being in the hospital and being a tissue match for another patient who is a prominent politician or the head of the SEIU.

73 posted on 10/13/2009 3:10:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: XenaLee
Back in 1993, Democrat Pennsylvania Governor Casey was dying and needed both a heart and liver transplant. Conveniently, a man who was a tissue match was beaten to death, and the gov got the organs (moving to the head of the list on a technicality)
74 posted on 10/13/2009 3:16:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: swmobuffalo
" You can’t use terminally ill organs. The man is an idiot. "

They will make some kind of excuse to consider someone terminally ill.
75 posted on 10/13/2009 3:22:59 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: honestabe010
Grandma was asked for her kidneys for a US Senator
and refused because she NEEDED THEM!!!!


76 posted on 10/13/2009 3:34:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Ronin
I think you mean “euthanasia”, but your point is well taken.

No. . .acutally, I meant anesthesia! Was referencing the nazi MO of medical experimentation where anesthesia was often not used. Doubt too; that they were so kind as to offer a 'mercy killing'; but thanks for comments. . . It IS the worst of slippery slope.

As for China; yes, we have been hearing for years of their prescriptions for insuring 'organ availability'. It is all too macabre really; and yet; these ideas - like Sunstein's - share the same rootbed.

We can and should be, horrified; but we should not be surprised; save for our shock at the positions of authority, these base Utilitarians now claim in our own Government; thanks to Obama,Inc.

77 posted on 10/13/2009 6:08:01 AM PDT by cricket
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To: honestabe010
Sunstein needs a blanket party.

With lead soap.

78 posted on 10/13/2009 6:14:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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79 posted on 10/13/2009 10:25:35 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: honestabe010

bump


80 posted on 10/13/2009 10:45:15 AM PDT by angelsonmyside
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