Posted on 10/12/2009 1:00:23 PM PDT by RobinMasters
A plaintiff on one of the cases challenging Barack Obama's eligibility to be president says federal courts must hear the challenges, because to do otherwise would be treason.
The claim comes from Charles F. Kerchner Jr., a lead plaintiff in the Kerchner et al vs. Obama & Congress et al lawsuit being handled by attorney Mario Apuzzo.
Apuzzo filed his lawsuit last January on behalf of Kerchner, Lowell T. Patterson, Darrell James Lenormand and Donald H. Nelson Jr. Named as defendants are Barack Hussein Obama II, the U.S., Congress, the Senate, House of Representatives and former Vice President Dick Cheney along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
The case focuses on the alleged failure in Congress to follow the Constitution. That document, the lawsuit states, "provides that Congress must fully qualify the candidate 'elected' by the Electoral College Electors."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
"It is most true that this court will not take jurisdiction if it should not: but it is equally true, that it must take jurisdiction if it should."
Well, who can argue with that? :-)
No federal agency vets presidential candidates or any candidate for congressional or senatorial office ! The parties supposedly do that, and the individual states through their secretary of states to make sure that candidate for president are eligible. (However there was a socialist candidate a few elections cycles back who was very open about a foreign birth plus I believe he was a ex-felon and he still remained on the ballot in about a dozen states. The SOS's in those states couldn't summon enough energy to do their job !)T Our present presidential predicament just shows how lax we have become. I don't know if he was born in Hawaii or not, but there is something that he is hiding. I think it's in the “public interest” that it be revealed! After all his “pals” got his senatorial opponents sealed divorce court records opened by a judge who said it was “in the public interest”. How more so a president !
The Founding Fathers didn't think anyone would have the gall or the lack of honor to try what might have been done.
They also thought the people would be the check on such things. They naively thought Americans might actually care about the integrity of their vote. Obviously a majority no longer do care, to this “new majority” it's a form of American Idol that occurs every four years.
I know you don't want to believe that there is such a gaping hole in the “system’ BUT there is !
Leave the conspiracy notions for the “9/11 Truthers”
I broke my vow never to post again, but I am so sick of Freepers showing ignorance as to how the USG agencies actually operates. (CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI etc. aren't omniscient omnipotent agencies, in fact they are very flawed inefficient bureaucracies! Leave the spy novel stuff to books, TV & the movies! Jack “Whatever” from 24 (another stupid TV show!) doesn't exist, I just couldn't stand it any more. Please educate yourself leave the ignorance to the left! I am sorry if I am being hard core about this, but don't look for conspiracies to explain this or cast about for secret cabals to blame. To paraphrase Shakespeare, "the fault lies with us not with the stars!"
No federal agency vets presidential candidates or any candidate for congressional or senatorial office !
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Yes, not in any official capacity.
I say BS! Researching and uncovering the truth is Exactly what we need to do. And quit throwing around the *conspiracy* word. More than a few of us realize that is just a way to deflect from the conversation at hand. (or to demoralize)
What are you REALLY afraid of?
Looks very interesting. A bit exhaustive, but interesting. I’ll delve into it later this evening.
I have no doubt we are seeing the final push of some plan. We’re like the cowboys in the circled wagons, hearing the drums in the distance, seeing the smoke signals, just knowing the final push will come as soon as the drum beaters and smoke signalers thing they’ve got their stuff together.
btt
Here’s some more background on Wells and his minions. Too smart for their own good and evil to boot.
http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=WellsHG
Yes they are, very much so. As such they may sometimes, for institutional not legal reasons, go "outside" their charters and use their resources for reasons not formally allowed.
Like spying on people who have broken no laws, looking for "character flaws", such as J.E. Hoovers spying on MLK.
The CIA in particular, may have those institutional reasons as may DIA and NSA (both part of DoD) for looking into BHO's background, and possibly leaking what they find. The leadership of those organizations may have personal reasons for wanting to "vet" BHO.
and how many years did you work there?
It always amazes me how many experts there are about these organizations, and have never been there!
Tell me how would they do it?
Obviously you know!
It always amazes me how many experts there are about these organizations, and have never been there!
Look dude, it's not inconceivable that some alphabet agency may know something about Obama in an indirect or direct way.
You're wasting your time. They will believe whatever crazy conspiracy suits their agenda.
Look at Obama, even now, less than a year into his term, and still having a ways to go before the take over is complete. He hasn't done a thing to keep the promises he used to enlist the help of all those people who turned out to vote for him.
It doesn't matter if it's a plan or not. Even if it's just pure political greed, or stupidity, or whatever, the outcome will be the same. America is facing its last chance to turn around and head back down the the wrong road they've been on, find the fork where they took the wrong turn and head down the right road. It might be too late, but it's our only hope to get back a bit of the America I grew up loving.
The same ways and means used to get other information that it's holders do not want them to have. Not just one technique, many techniques. Sometimes poorly applied, they are government agencies. They'd probably hire a contractor for the actual work, but maybe not.
One potential means, they could hack into the Hawaii DoH computers. Why not, the Chinese and Russians probably already have. Even more likely the Israelis, who also would have good survival reasons to want to know, and to leak what they know.
One low tech, but effective, method that I've been briefed on more times than I can count, is the "honey trap". Some lonely, and possibly not too attractive, lady in the Hawaii DoH gets wined and dined and generally paid attention to, maybe laid as well. It can be tough work, but the Soviets had it down to a near Science. She wants to please her new "friend", so thinking "what could it hurt" supplies him with the goods. Then he disappears, but not instantly. She might not even connect his "breaking it off" with her supplying the data.
It's happened before, it'll likely happen again.
Thou knows of what thou speaks
Not really, I've been a government contractor for 32 years. Plus before that I was active duty AF, Reserve and Guard, officer with the last two overlapping that 32 years as DoD contractor.
But all that paper, and meetings and so on, makes it that much easier to "lose" small amounts of 'stuff', including time, money, etc. We aren't talking about the invasion of Grenada or even supporting the Contras.
It might even just be someone from one of those agencies using the skills he got in OJT, freelancing.
Actually the whole Iran Contra affair shows that much can be done under the radar before you get caught, and smaller stuff might just stay under the radar, at least "long enough".
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