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Saint Damien: Emotions run high in Rome, at home (Newest Saint served in Hawaii)
Maui ^ | October 11, 2009 | MELISSA TANJI

Posted on 10/11/2009 3:31:17 AM PDT by paudio

The man who lived and died caring for Hawaii's outcasts in Kalaupapa more than 100 years ago became St. Damien in Rome today.

In a Mass that began at 10 a.m. today in Rome, 10 p.m. Saturday in Hawaii, Pope Benedict XVI canonized Damien and four others, formally lifting them to sainthood.

The ceremony in St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican began with the pope reading a formal act of canonization, and continued with a chanting of the litany of saints.

Benedict then recited the formal words of canonization, and in reciting the names of Damien and the four others, made them saints of the Roman Catholic Church.

(Excerpt) Read more at mauinews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: damien; vatican
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1 posted on 10/11/2009 3:31:18 AM PDT by paudio
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To: paudio

Hawaii had a leper colony, is that what Damien was associated with? I couldn’t quite tell from the article.


2 posted on 10/11/2009 3:56:27 AM PDT by fso301
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Yes. He served among the lepers, and died from that disease. There are some pointers about his life on the right pane of the article.


3 posted on 10/11/2009 3:58:34 AM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: paudio

A saint of God is a living person who is sold out to Jesus Christ, loves Him and serves Him.

That stuff the Pope does is just religion, and it can’t save a soul.


4 posted on 10/11/2009 4:40:30 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: paudio
I thought to be a saint you had to have two verifiable miricles attributed to you.

zero is sure to be beatified,

On another note ...

I see no comments on it, but I seem to recall zero using the words "While I'm alive" or "in my lifetime" during his Nobel announcement. I missed why he would say that.

Anyone else?

5 posted on 10/11/2009 4:43:32 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: paudio
From the article:

. . . becoming Hawaii's first saint.

But—but—but . . . There must be some mistake. Surely Obama became Hawaii's first saint.

(This should be one of the PhotoShop moments in the TIME article.)

6 posted on 10/11/2009 4:45:43 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: paudio

I have to admit that when I first read the headline I believed that 0bama was being canonized.


7 posted on 10/11/2009 4:59:23 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: RoadTest

The soul is ALREADY SAVED before Sainthood!!!!


8 posted on 10/11/2009 5:18:30 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy

“The soul is ALREADY SAVED before Sainthood!!!!”

Souls are saved by belief in Jesus Christ. (Mark 16:16, John 3:17, Romans 10:9)
A particular religion declaring someone a saint is like man saying mankind is warming the planet.


9 posted on 10/11/2009 5:33:09 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: RoadTest

Sooooo, I gues you don’t believe Peter or Paul is a Saint...do you? I didn’t think so.


10 posted on 10/11/2009 5:35:12 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: paudio

St. Augustine Catholic Church on Waikiki has a small but interesting museum dedicated to Damien. Worth a look, for sure.


11 posted on 10/11/2009 5:36:56 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Mmm mmm mmm - Barack Hussein Obama (repeat endlessly))
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To: RoadTest

Where ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.


12 posted on 10/11/2009 5:55:34 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: paudio
There are several movies about Damien and the lepers:


13 posted on 10/11/2009 8:19:49 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Ann Archy

“Sooooo, I gues you don’t believe Peter or Paul is a Saint...do you? I didn’t think so.”

Where did you get that idea? They fit my definition that I posted.


14 posted on 10/11/2009 8:52:11 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: RoadTest

Read YOUR post #9!! OMG!! Do you not remember what you said???


15 posted on 10/11/2009 8:54:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: A.A. Cunningham

God is interested in live saints, A.A.. Heaven is full of those that have gone to sleep in Jesus. It’s this rotten world that needs saints, not the roll call from the beyond.


16 posted on 10/11/2009 8:54:44 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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“Read YOUR post #9!! OMG!! Do you not remember what you said???”

This is what I said: “Souls are saved by belief in Jesus Christ. (Mark 16:16, John 3:17, Romans 10:9)
A particular religion declaring someone a saint is like man saying mankind is warming the planet.”

While man is saying “We’re warming the planet,”, God is warming it (if it’s being particularly warmed, or not) with His sun.

While man is saying “I declare so-and-so a saint. The rest of you and your ancestors (implied) aren’t.” while God is making sons of God with His Son!


17 posted on 10/11/2009 9:01:56 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: RoadTest

LOL!!!


18 posted on 10/11/2009 9:21:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy

LOL!!!

Can’t deal with the way it is, eh? Are you Catholic?


19 posted on 10/11/2009 9:41:05 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: RoadTest; Ann Archy

You two are getting bolluxed up in semantics. There is more than one use of the word saint.

From The American Heritage Dictionary-
saint:
1. a) Abbr. St. or S. (Christianity)- A person officially recognized, especially by canonization, as being entitled to public veneration and capable of interceding for people on earth. b) A person who has died and gone to heaven. c) A member of any of various religious groups, especially a Latter-Day Saint.
2. An extremely virtuous person.

I prefer to see the first definition applied to the word “Saint”, and the second to be applied to the word “saint”.

RT: you are right in what you say, that in many places The Bible uses “saint” to describe the living, and that Christ calls us to be saints -to be soldiers of Christ. The Bible also uses it to describe the holy dead in heaven.

From Easton’s Bible Dictionary: “Saint: one separated from the world and consecrated to God; one holy by profession and by covenant; a believer in Christ (Ps. 16:3; Rom. 1:7; 8:27; Phil. 1:1; Heb. 6:10). The “saints” spoken of in Jude 1:14 are probably not the disciples of Christ, but the “innumerable company of angels” (Heb. 12:22; Ps. 68:17), with reference to Deut. 33:2. This word is also used of the holy dead (Matt. 27:52; Rev. 18:24). It was not used as a distinctive title of the apostles and evangelists and of a “spiritual nobility” till the fourth century. In that sense it is not a scriptural title.”

This applies to all that you are citing, but also includes those “holy dead”

The root of canon is the Greek “kanon” or ‘measuring rod’... thus the Canon of Saints is meant to assist people in measuring their own lives. Every Catholic recognizes that Canonization does not win the person a place in heaven, it is simply a formal recognition of the Catholic Church declaring a deceased person be included in the canon, or list, of recognized saints. The example of such a person is one to be emulated. In fact, the process of canonization requires that the uncanonized, unrecognized Saint having at least 2 clear, unambiguous miracles ascribed as God’s own testament on their behalf as to the holiness of that Saint. Most are very long past death before the investigatory process is even begun. The process is much more rigorous than you almost certainly understand, and you would yourself probably agree with the canonization, the listing, of these holies if you were to look into it further.


20 posted on 10/12/2009 6:57:04 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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