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Marine Corps bans pit bulls, Rottweilers at Camp Pendleton, other bases
LA Times ^

Posted on 10/10/2009 10:23:44 AM PDT by Chet 99

The Marine Corps is moving to ban dogs with aggressive temperaments from Camp Pendleton and other bases under a policy developed after a 3-year-old boy at Camp Lejeune, N.C., was fatally bitten by a pit bull.

The banned breeds are pit bulls, Rottweilers and wolf hybrids.

Families moving into base housing are no longer allowed to bring those breeds. Families already in housing can keep their dogs until Sept. 30, 2012, but only if they receive a "good-dog" waiver.

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1 posted on 10/10/2009 10:23:44 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

Rotweillers with bad temperments? Never met one. What about owners with bad temperments? What about Akitas, chows, pomeranians, and Jack Russells?


2 posted on 10/10/2009 10:33:09 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Chet 99

Takin’ care of thier own.

Semper Fi!


3 posted on 10/10/2009 10:35:31 AM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: Chet 99
Uh oh, anti pitbull from Chet 99, liberal wants to ban all pit bulls- next he take your chiuaua- that is what big liberals do ain't it Chet.
4 posted on 10/10/2009 10:37:56 AM PDT by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: goseminoles

Humans with bad temperaments often are amenable to rational discussion and calming words. A dog in an attacking frame of mind is another matter.


5 posted on 10/10/2009 10:39:50 AM PDT by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Chet 99

The Corp’s mascot is an English bulldog, isn’t it? Are these banned?


6 posted on 10/10/2009 10:42:23 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Chet 99

Platoooon, dismissed!

7 posted on 10/10/2009 10:47:07 AM PDT by concentric circles
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To: ozzymandus

The Corps should get rid of Chesty XXVI, or whatever iteration they are on.

All that mutt ever did for us at Eighth & I back in 1962 was hump our leg whilst we stood in formation. The guests at the Sunset Parades thought he was adorable, however.

LOL!


8 posted on 10/10/2009 10:50:04 AM PDT by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator (who served in Vietnam) said so.)
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To: ozzymandus

No they just look bad. They are one of the sweetest temperment dogs you’ll ever find. The fight and aggression has pretty much been bred out of them. I guess that’s what will happen to our armed services after the Democrats get done.


9 posted on 10/10/2009 10:52:46 AM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: Elsiejay

Is that true? Are violent individuals in our jails and prison proportional to violent dogs quarantined? Humans are much more dangerous by far. My point being that I am tired of rottweillers being lumped into the dangerous dog category due to unfounded fear of the breed. While other breed are much more likely to be a danger to the community.


10 posted on 10/10/2009 11:02:30 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Chet 99

So much for “The Devil Dogs”.


11 posted on 10/10/2009 11:04:30 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: airedale

I know bulldogs are totally harmless, but so are most of the “bad” dogs the marines are trying to ban.


12 posted on 10/10/2009 11:05:19 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Chet 99
Rottweilers

Rottweilers????

They tend to be very mild mannered. Certainly less skittish than Dobermans, which can also be very friendly dogs, once they get to know you a little.

13 posted on 10/10/2009 11:13:02 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: goseminoles

Do a quick search using insurance companies and banned dogs and you’ll come up with a list. One is at: http://www.dogbitelegalcenter.com/resources/common-dogs.html but it’s partial.http://m.hg.org/law-articles/area-insurance-and-reinsurance/6862/Insurance_Companies_Balk_at_Covering_Dangerous

Here in LA wolf and wolf hybrids have to be kept on leash & muzzled when in public. They also have to be neutered unless a special permit is obtained for breeding purposes beyond normal licensing requirements. They are not allowed at dog parks and they have to be kept in a fenced yard with something like a 12 foot anti climb fence that is protected against digging. Doesn’t matter what generation of wolf/dog hybrid it is or the temperament it has. There is one wolf hybrid that the sweetest temperament and gets along with every dog it meets. The requirements still apply. We used to have a couple of Timber Wolf Hybrids that came to the dog park (5th generation) a mother and daughter. My Airedale did something that ticked off the mother and they both walked down on the 90 pound Airedale and put him in the corner of the park. The owner pulled them off. If my Airedale hadn’t backed down the two of them would have killed him. They did the same thing to several other dogs and they never returned to the park.

Any dog can be a problem dog. Mostly it’s problem owners. Those who use the dog as a substitute for a piece of their anatomy to prove how tough they are, those that don’t train their dogs, those that don’t spend time with their dogs and keep them exercised and socialized, those that aren’t the pack leaders of the family pack and have let the dog assume that role. Unfortunately you do have dogs that are improperly bred (one aggressive dog bred with another or two that are nuts, etc). This happens with really popular breeds and the fighting breeds. The result is unstable dogs and as it goes on down the line the dogs become increasingly unstable. About 80% of a puppy’s behavior comes from the mother and if she’s not socialized and well adjusted the puppies won’t be either without a lot of work. with dogs being specifically bred to be aggressive (fighting also) the chances of its puppies coming out aggressive really increases. Those who use the dog as a substitute for a part of their anatomy or those that think they need an aggressive dog to protect their families tend to get dogs from lines like this and you get trouble.

I stay away from the dog park on the weekend because the under exercised and under socialized dogs show up with their owners. I get a kick out of the young male who has his pit or rott on a very heavy chain leash using the chain for a collar. Of course I stay away from him and his dog.

My neighbor raises English Staffordshire Terriers and has some of the top show dogs in the country. They are friendly to humans once invited inside but very dog aggressive. Part is due to the breed and part is due to the males being stud dogs. When I visit Airedale kennels we have to keep my neutered male away from the stud dogs too. They would try to kill or injure my dog to protect their harem.


14 posted on 10/10/2009 11:16:02 AM PDT by airedale
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To: Chet 99

Canine racism.


15 posted on 10/10/2009 11:21:50 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: airedale

BTW, I love airedales.
In 2007, 33 people were killed in the US by dogs.
Top 10 biters?
German shep
Chow
Akita(aggressive in breed standard)
Rot
Doberman
Pit
Mixes
Alaskan malamute
St bernard
Great dane

I only see one on the list the kills in a predatory manner.


16 posted on 10/10/2009 11:22:38 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: El Gato
Rottweilers???? They tend to be very mild mannered. Certainly less skittish than Dobermans, which can also be very friendly dogs, once they get to know you a little.

Agree. I had one I adopted and she was the best dog. After my daughter was born and old enough to crawl she crawled all over that dog pulling her ears and stubby tail and the dog ate it up. Used to take her everywhere off the leash and never had 1 problem with her even with many strangers petting her.

18 posted on 10/10/2009 11:30:01 AM PDT by Pylon
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I guess they're afraid of an embarrassment to the Corps.
19 posted on 10/10/2009 11:31:16 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (One Big Ass Mistake America!)
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MCO 11000.22 CH 6
DOMESTIC ANIMAL CONTROL

20 posted on 10/10/2009 11:56:57 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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