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Apache Pilots Shocked by Size of Attack on Afghan Outpost
ABC ^ | Afghanistan, Oct. 8, 2009 | KAREN RUSSO

Posted on 10/08/2009 5:58:02 PM PDT by Joiseydude

The pilot of an Apache gunship, who flew to the rescue of U.S. soldiers nearly overrun at a remote outpost in Afghanistan last weekend, told ABC News today that he had "never seen that large of a force" attacking coalition troops in Afghanistan.

By the time Warrant Officer Ross Lewellen and Warrant Officer Chad Bardwell arrived over the embattled outpost, dubbed Camp Keating, it was in flames and dozens of insurgents could be seen on the camp's perimeter.

When the battle was over and the fire extinguished, many who survived had nothing left "except the clothes off their backs and the weapons in their hands," one soldier told ABC News.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; karenrusso; rulesofengagement; russo; wot
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To: editor-surveyor
"When did the communists ever “get it together” in Nam?"

November 1974 when ted kennedy was able to pass the bill to stop funding the south Vietnamese.

81 posted on 10/08/2009 8:54:11 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Joiseydude

Barry’s ROE...............................................


82 posted on 10/08/2009 9:00:34 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Yep, that’s a fact!


83 posted on 10/08/2009 9:15:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: MHGinTN
yep - Told McCrystal not needed in talks taking place in DC re strategy - told him to wait - after all, he had basketball to play

( I wonder if his handlers didn't tell him a little basketball would endear him to us plebeians? To not realize we really resent his taking time for a trip to Copenhagen, a night out on the town, speech after speech pushing a program that won't even go into effect until 2013, playing basketball, etc, while ignoring our troops while they die in the highest numbers since 2001....unfathomable

Please, Dear God, override these people.

84 posted on 10/08/2009 9:16:00 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: Joiseydude

Prayers for ours who were killed due to 0bama....
Hoping many “insurgents” were wasted


85 posted on 10/08/2009 9:18:01 PM PDT by dennisw (It's not called the Wheel. It's called the Carousel.)
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To: okie01
Ok might work.
You probably have a better plan than what is being talked about in Washington tonite.

They can have their little feudal or whatever government in a small part of the world but don't try to export it or harbor anyone else trying to do so (AlQueda).

Of course we would then have to live with NPR or others complaining about women being kept illiterate in burkas.

86 posted on 10/08/2009 9:23:15 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: nkycincinnatikid
“Americas enemies are emboldened and already savor victory.”

This is my initial thought: Obama is emboldening the enemy to hit us hard right now while the commander in twit is fumbling on what to do.

87 posted on 10/08/2009 9:34:14 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: TomasUSMC
Skinny is that Obama wants to negotiate with 'moderate' Taliban and go after Al Q'aeda.

Invincible stupidity.
88 posted on 10/08/2009 9:39:08 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

89 posted on 10/08/2009 9:44:05 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: gitmo

Sort of, yes, but the USAF saved the Marines from defeat by continuous airdrops of ammo and rations along with constant strafing of VPA troops.


90 posted on 10/08/2009 9:45:42 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: DCPatriot
"Where are the drones? The satellite photos? The spotters? ...or am I watching too many movies?"

Maybe. My understanding is that the US has plenty of satellites, but they are a "limited resource" meaning political clout is necessary to get them going to observe anything, they are busy with some other politician's needs.

In other words, even if we knew where bin Ladin is being harboured, it would take a Senator or the President to get a satellite on his butt.

91 posted on 10/08/2009 10:04:00 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“November 1974 when ted kennedy was able to pass the bill to stop funding the south Vietnamese.”

The blood of thousands was on his hands.


92 posted on 10/08/2009 10:12:37 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: hinckley buzzard
Khe Sanh was a firebase/ LZ on a hilltop. This sounds more like Dien Bien Phu.

Well put.

93 posted on 10/08/2009 10:12:53 PM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: SLB; Travis McGee

I’m in awe of the fighting spirit an ability of the American fighters.

I despise the polidiots an presstitutes an their handlers that intentionally place restrictions with ROE’s and limit air an artillary support to our forces in harms way.

I remember many times in my own short time on this earth that our smaller out numbered forces have beat the crap out of attacking forces.

Sgt Smith in Iraq.

The small force of USAF SP’s at the 051 gate at Tan Son Nhut RSVN that killed hundreds of VC with small arms. .

SF team in Desert Storm OP that was discovered by a small child an then attacked by hundreds of enemy soldiers.

Add the still unknown stories of heroics this current crop has yet to share an tears of pride for our fighters can not be avoided by this old retired troop.

One of our fighters is better than any 20 of theirs IMO. .

Prayers, Praise an Support for our forces is all I ask.

When I was in their place that was all I needed when Uncle Sugar or the Enemy were serving shit sandwiches.

My opinion.

Stay safe.......


94 posted on 10/08/2009 10:32:34 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Lurker

Who was the socialist POS that said General McCrystal should just shut up an salute ?

The poser / punk that said that needs to have his attitude physically adjusted.

Stay Safe !!


95 posted on 10/08/2009 10:45:05 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: myknowledge; gitmo
Sort of, yes, but the USAF saved the Marines from defeat by continuous airdrops of ammo and rations along with constant strafing of VPA troops.
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It was the B-52 strikes and LAPES drops that saved those

Marines as well as Arty from every gun in range,,,

The road was cut and they were under siege for 75 days(?),,,

They were taking 600 rounds a day on a 1/4 mile square area

with 7,000 men hunkered down,,,

In the middle of all this the Marines pulled a

bayonet charge to get to some of their dead brothers,,,

I have a friend who was in that company,,,B-1/26 IIRC...

96 posted on 10/08/2009 10:49:11 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
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97 posted on 10/08/2009 10:49:35 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Just wanted to double check on something before I mention your info to a buddy of mine.

Our troops are not allowed to use claymores or landmines in Afghanistan - is that correct?? I can’t even fathom this.

My friend is a retired Army Colonel, served in Vietnam and I’ll bet he drops out of his chair when I mention this.

98 posted on 10/08/2009 11:08:49 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: warsaw44
Just wanted to double check on something before I mention your info to a buddy of mine.
Our troops are not allowed to use claymores or landmines in Afghanistan - is that correct?? I can’t even fathom this.
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That's what I've seen posted on FR,,,

Same for Iraq as I was told by a 10th.Mt. trooper,,,

He's going back to Iraq next week for his 3rd. tour,,,

All PC now,,,

Nothing stops the bad guys faster than a Claymore and a

5 gallon can of gas in front of it,,,

We called it “Foo Gas”...

99 posted on 10/08/2009 11:29:32 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: GeronL

Well. Landlocked and supply line controlled by Putin (Obamas Controller) and Pakis. Not a good scenario.


100 posted on 10/08/2009 11:49:49 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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