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To: thecraw

“Wong and Elg don’t specifically define Natural Born Citizen, except for when you use them to bolster your own arguments”

You should read the Wong ruling.
It’s quite clear from the rulings quotes and texts that it references that ‘natural born citizen’ and ‘citizen at time of birth’ are the same thing. The Wong decision didnt require them to hold Wong to be ‘natural-born’ and thus the final decision doesnt say that.

“So would Barry be a Natural Born Citizen of England also?”

That depends on their own laws and it has nothing to do with our laws. US law is clear: no other countries laws on citizenship have bearing on our own laws of citizenship. Our own laws stand on their own. (See Elgg). To think otherwise is to put US law under some global regime.

Things are unclear and confusing only to those who don’t want the clear and unconfusing truth.


66 posted on 10/08/2009 11:58:31 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG
“So would Barry be a Natural Born Citizen of England also?” That depends on their own laws and it has nothing to do with our laws. US law is clear: no other countries laws on citizenship have bearing on our own laws of citizenship. Our own laws stand on their own. (See Elgg). To think otherwise is to put US law under some global regime.

Yes our own laws stand on their own, however, our own laws cannot automatically confer US citizenship from Obambi's FATHER. He was a dual citizen at birth, not Natural Born.

If Barry would have to rely on any act of law to either renounce that UK citizenship or become fully naturalized according to US law, that by definition would mean that he was NEVER a Natural Born Citizen in the first place. If at the time of his birth, Hussein was governed both by US law and the British Nationality Act of 1948 (as he has readily admitted) he would have been born, under natural law, with divided loyalties.

Therefore, no way Natural Born. He can vote and get a US Passport, but will never be eligible for President.


68 posted on 10/08/2009 12:14:08 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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