[thecraw]

“So would Barry be a Natural Born Citizen of England also?” That depends on their own laws and it has nothing to do with our laws. US law is clear: no other countries laws on citizenship have bearing on our own laws of citizenship. Our own laws stand on their own. (See Elgg). To think otherwise is to put US law under some global regime.

Yes our own laws stand on their own, however, our own laws cannot automatically confer US citizenship from Obambi's FATHER. He was a dual citizen at birth, not Natural Born.

If Barry would have to rely on any act of law to either renounce that UK citizenship or become fully naturalized according to US law, that by definition would mean that he was NEVER a Natural Born Citizen in the first place. If at the time of his birth, Hussein was governed both by US law and the British Nationality Act of 1948 (as he has readily admitted) he would have been born, under natural law, with divided loyalties.

Therefore, no way Natural Born. He can vote and get a US Passport, but will never be eligible for President.

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“our own laws cannot automatically confer US citizenship from Obambi’s FATHER”

True but not the issue. Obama’s US citizenship was acquired/conferred otherwise - via place of birth (viz Wong ruling) and his mother.

“He was a dual citizen at birth, not Natural Born.”

1) So you acknowledge that Obama was a US citizen at birth?
2) The assertion is that dual citizens cannot be natural born citizens seems to contradict the SCOTUS Elgg ruling that showed/ruled otherwise. What Supreme Court ruling backs up your view?

“he would have been born, under natural law, with divided loyalties.”
We live under US Law. Again, under US law, his US citizenship is unaffected by things like British Nationality law of 1948. US law doesnt defer to other nations.