Posted on 10/07/2009 9:49:31 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
>(”Kill not your offspring for fear of poverty; it is We who provide for them and for you. Surely, killing them is a great sin.” Qur’an 17:32).
Unless you fill them up with explosives and send them on jihad against the infidels. Please.
“They are in the minority.”
Yeah. We read that in THEIR press every time they commit an atrocity somewhere in the world.
my heart is warmed! I know JUST what you say/mean and infer FR friend. my long time ‘motto’ is at least go down swingin’ if it EVER comes to it/that. no cowering in some corner. make it count. it is very horrible to contemplate just who the enemy might be but it is worlds away from the horror of being hearded into some camp.......disarmed begging for your life. that sounds like a bit of doom and gloom don’t it? yep. but city dwellers might take it to heart..
How about honor killings? Women are chattel in islam. Worthless except for breeding purposes. Surely you have seen that poor girl in Florida who converted from islam and is scared out of her mind her own father, or members of her former mosque, will kill her if she returns.
You can’t cite ONE oblique passage from an evil tome and believe it is the first, middle, or final word. There is more evil in that book than any fictional horror story I have ever read.
They live by it and die by it and kill by it. Period.
Rigged, of course....the only game in town.
It is the God denying communists that have killed millions and millions and millions of people. They have by extremely far out killed any religious group in the history of the world. They consider not the life of an individual to be created in the image of God. The individual has no value except as "it" fits into the communist system.
The God hating communist are truly the greatest evil this planet has ever seen and in the form of Obama and his like it is the cancer that is threatening to destroy this, our Nation. May we pray to Almighty God for mercy and grace to repent of our sins and take this great Nation back. Without the help of Almighty God we are surely undone.
....And Christanity still continues to grow everyday.
....And Christianity outpaces Islam when it comes to new converts.
Ping.
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Let’s not forget this same paragraph from the posted article :
The world’s second largest religion behind Christianity, which has an estimated 2.1 billion to 2.2 billion followers.
There is also one huge difference -— Islam is growing due to BIRTH. Christianity mostly grows through CONVERSION.
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Here are excerpts from a very interesting article I found;
http://www.amberpawlik.com/IslamonTrial.html
>In the current state of the world, Muslims are involved in almost every war or battle. It was Muslim terrorists who bombed a train in Madrid Spain; Muslim terrorists who held a school hostage in Russia, killing children; Muslim terrorists who flew planes into the World Trade Center. The past 1400 years of Islamic history has been riddled with terrorism, from the days of Muhammad to Al-Zarqawi.
But, for whatever reason, Islam is above any kind of critical look or debate. It is given an almost holy status. People don’t just avoid criticism of it; they are quick to defend it. Those who criticize Islam are often banished to the Never Never Land of political suicide. The defenses given for Islam are so hysterical; you would think you just insulted their mothers or something.
Islam is not the problem, we keep getting told. The terrorists, they assure us, had the “wrong interpretation” of the Koran and are not true Muslims.
>Today, our unwillingness to identify the enemy today is so bad, we can’t even watch movies where the enemy is, heaven forbid, Islamic terrorists. Not only will we not create new fiction, we won’t even report the facts. The bloody history of Islam is whitewashed in regular history books and courses. In fact, the more violent Islam gets, it seems, the more excuses and protection it gets. If you ever notice, Islam was not called a “Religion of Peace” before 9/11. Then they kill 3000 people and get called a “Religion of Peace.”
>There is no moral system outlined in the Koran - with the exception of allowing men to beat their wives, sleep with their slaves, and there is an occasional, “give to the poor.” There certainly is no unequivocal “Do not kill”; “Do not steal”; or “Do not lie,” let alone any other insight into how to behave properly as a human being. Most of the “moral” guidance given in the Koran is not a restraint on humans but permission to do what they want - mostly for men to do what they want.
The Koran is very self-serving to men and especially Muhammad when it comes to having access to women.
>I propose the Koran is nothing but a rationalization: Muhammad’s rationalization to do whatever he wants in the name of “religion.”
>The Koran is hostile to any kind of wealth, pleasure or success on this earth. Even having children is considered a test from God of where a Muslim’s loyalties lie. Man is meant to remain humble with only modest earnings, pouring most of his earnings to the cause of Islam. How can business, technology, art, music, or any other form of wealth or happiness develop out of this? Those who “purchase this present life” like this, according to Islam has done so at the price of the afterlife. Given Muslims, Muslims who follow the Koran anyway, are forbidden any pleasure while on this earth, death must feel like liberation to them
>Let me remind you of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Along with the Pentagon (and another plane which never made its destination of the White House as some courageous heroes took it down before it could get there), the Islamic terrorists targeted the twin towers of the World Trade Center: symbols of American wealth and prosperity.
“And when we willed to destroy a city, to its affluent ones did we address our bidding: but when they acted criminally therein, just was its doom, and we destroyed it with an utter destruction” - Sura 17:17
>The fact is, all hate movements have been marked by this same thing: victimology and collectivism. They convince themselves that they are a victimized, oppressed group of another group - that they are being attacked or held down by another group - then launch a war. It is never specific people who have been hurt by other specific people, but by a broad, generic group of “Jews” or “bourgeois” or “nonbelievers.”
The Koran is not very unequivocal in stating that enemies as people who threaten your life. Infidels, according to the Koran, are by definition enemies.
>Everything about Islam prepares its people to be fighters. It riles them with hatred. It prods them to fight. Even the “holidays” in Islam trains fighters. Take for instance Ramadan. Instead of feasting and celebrating, Muslims are to sacrifice during the daylight hours for a month. I propose that this is an effective way to train its followers for war. Besides the practical ability to go without food for extended amounts of times, it trains people to accept a tough life. The only place you will see this kind of behavior in America is for various types of military training.
>Many people, naïve to Islam, will point to the fact that there are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and not all of them become terrorists. True, they do not. The problem is not the regular people but the leaders. Most people, anywhere, just accept the major philosophy/religion of their time and usually do not follow or take it very seriously. Observe that it isn’t the poor or ignorant who typically become terrorists but the rich and educated, i.e. the ones who are capable of understanding the Koran and have the means to implement what it says. This is about what Islam is as an ideology and what the ramifications will be when adopted.
>Blaming it on “poverty” is particularly sneaky. It is simply not true; most terrorists are middle class if not filthy rich. When the religious fundamentalists are poor, they do not have the means to fight. It is when they became wealthy, recently mostly from oil money, that they can launch bigger, more effective attacks. Blaming it on poverty is sneaky: it suggests the solution is to pour more money - more money to go to jihad - into their hands. Indeed, what we need is the exact opposite: we need to starve them of all resources, especially financial ones.
>We refuse to see how Islam is responsible for the violence and primitive life in the Middle East. Islam cannot even uphold a decent society let alone a prosperous one. Progress is not some kind of gift from the heavens. If you look at all successful societies, you will see the influence of one man: Aristotle. Progress requires a commitment to reason. The only way for peace or stability to come to the Middle East is for Islam to leave and Enlightenment to reign.
>One would think that “liberals” would be the first to condemn Islam. It is the polar opposite of all of their stated values and they have a tendency to think they are enlightened. But, eerily enough, they almost seem to side with Islam; although they go after Christianity with an unusual tenacity. This seems odd, since Islam is by far a more faith-based and hateful religion than Christianity. Christianity upholds at least a decent, stable moral framework for people to co-exist peacefully. Islam does not. The fact that liberals speak out against Christianity, allegedly in the name of reason, but not Islam shows that the left is not anti-faith but anti-values. If you notice, leftists didn’t embrace Islam until they realized its potential for terrorism. This speaks volumes.
>Even if we take down every Islamic dictatorship in existence now that harbors and finances terrorists, so as long as this malignant ideology is around, it will inspire its followers to pick up and fight infidels.
>Communism came tumbling down with hardly a fire shot. Like with Islam, for decades we were told it was “bad people” running the communist countries that was the problem. It was not; like with Islam, the problem is the ideology. I am however more hopeful that people will call Islam evil, and sooner, as if people can see how communism, which comes in the package of equality and peace, is an evil ideology; they can certainly see how Islam is evil.
>Most seem to believe that Islam needs to be “secularized” for peace and freedom to come to the Middle East. Frankly, this is just a politically correct way to say Islam is the problem. Whether you believe Islam has to be “secularized” or eradicated, the simple fact remains that Islam is the problem. Until we are willing to prosecute Islam as a violent religion: our war on terror will never end.
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I might have been a little clearer on the matter than I was. When you assign Deity status to humans trouble is not far behind. And I still maintain too many people have died as a result of fanatic zeal. By the way Communism is just another form of organized religion when you think about it,
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