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Karl Rove: The GOP Is Winning the Health-Care Debate
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 10-07-09 | KARL ROVE

Posted on 10/07/2009 6:07:16 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

Gallup says independents now favor Republicans by nine points.

assing health-care reform could be harmful to the health of congressional Democrats.

Just look at how President Barack Obama's standing has fallen as he has pushed for reform. According to Fox News surveys, the number of independents who oppose health-care reform hit 57% at the end of September, up from 33% in July. Independents are generally a quarter of the vote in off-year congressional elections.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; gop; gophealthcare; heatlh; obama; obamamcare; rove

1 posted on 10/07/2009 6:07:18 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

While the GOP would like to take credit for this,
the credit goes to tea party patriots of all kinds.


2 posted on 10/07/2009 6:09:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: GOP_Lady
>>>>>Gallup says independents now favor Republicans by nine points.

Not from anything the GOP has done.

3 posted on 10/07/2009 6:09:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: tet68

Well if the GOP holds together in opposition then they deserve some credit.

It is not over.

Keep calling and faxing.

www.faxzero.com and www.gotfreefax.com allow 2 FREE faxes per day or 4 in total. Google your sen and reps name. Get ALL the phone numbers voice and fax - in-state and DC.

Type up your note, copy and paste and you can fax every day. Rotate around their offices.


4 posted on 10/07/2009 6:11:35 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: GOP_Lady

Winning the debate is one thing, its the vote that counts here. We’ve got a congress today that does not care one iota who wins any debate.


5 posted on 10/07/2009 6:12:08 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Reagan Man
Not from anything the GOP has done.

Exactly. It just so happens to be that the GOP is the lesser of two evils at the moment.
6 posted on 10/07/2009 6:14:47 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: GOP_Lady

I think the dems are just going to push it through no matter what the polls say the public thinks.

Sad to say, but both parties have been doing what they want for years regardless of public opinion and a large majority of incumbents keep getting re-elected.


7 posted on 10/07/2009 6:15:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take a beating.)
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To: Iron Munro

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/07/congress%E2%80%99-secret-plan-to-pass-obamacare-confirmed/


8 posted on 10/07/2009 6:16:20 PM PDT by Gone_Postal ("Men who say it cannot be done, should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: randomhero97
It just so happens to be that the GOP is the lesser of two evils at the moment as always.

Fixed it.

9 posted on 10/07/2009 6:16:22 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Huck
Lol. Okay, you got me there.

I myself am not a Rebublican, but I will side with the GOP 99.99% of the time.
10 posted on 10/07/2009 6:18:57 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97
It just so happens to be that the GOP is the lesser of two evils at the moment as always.

Fixed it.

11 posted on 10/07/2009 6:20:16 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: randomhero97

Sorry for the double post. Just having fun with you.


12 posted on 10/07/2009 6:23:18 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Gone_Postal

The people that are trying to pass this death bill not only should be out of office; they should be in jail.


13 posted on 10/07/2009 6:23:48 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: randomhero97

I oppose Democrats 99.9% of the time. (It’s probably higher than that.) So what choice do I have but the GOP?


14 posted on 10/07/2009 6:24:37 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: GOP_Lady

The GOP ain’t winnin’ jack on this.

Dems gonna push it through, GOP knows it and is posturing for position after they lose the vote.


15 posted on 10/07/2009 6:36:42 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: GOP_Lady

Mr. Permanent Majority Rove

Guys like him are just about winning elections....he and his Bush cronies had no principles....if they did, we wouldn’t be in the situation we are today.


16 posted on 10/07/2009 6:54:31 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: GOP_Lady

Will it be enough?


17 posted on 10/07/2009 7:00:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSM BIAS: grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell)
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To: GOP_Lady

I don’t know how the Democrats can pass any kind of bill because Obama said he would not sign any bill as follows and if he does then HE IS A LIAR and should be IMPEACHED..

1. “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits either now or in the future. Period.”

2. “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period.

3. “The reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”

4. “I will protect Medicare.” No benefits will be reduced.

5. “ you will not have longer lines or waits to see the doctor”

So after he signs the legislation we start impeachment proceedings because HE LIED.


18 posted on 10/07/2009 7:15:06 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Joe Wilson was speaking truth to power in the Peoples House. I am Joe !)
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To: GOP_Lady

No, Americans are winning the debate. The GOP is just trying to decide whether to ride our coattails or give in to their instinct to cave at the last minute without cause.


19 posted on 10/07/2009 7:33:49 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: GOP_Lady

I have said from the Beginning my freedom is not for sale ,as I knew from the Beginning the Liars who sure can figure would come up with Sham Numbers to lead the Fools to accept this entire Sham,well it happened yesterday with the Lying Figures, now everyone says Your Surrendering of your Freedom will only cost 829 billion dollars.
Hurray! Government will control your entire life and it will only cost you 829 Bilion dollars ,Oh Happy day!


20 posted on 10/08/2009 3:40:34 AM PDT by ballplayer
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