[Names Ash Housewares]

Do any of these idiots that think this is such a great idea ever spend time on a sub?

[SandRat]

Nope!

[SandRat]

At best, they’re Skimmers.

[SubmarineNuke]

I spent 5 and a half yrs of my life assigned to boats.

There is nothing more disasterous and it confirms my previous stance. Our current flag officers are self-serving ass****s.

Anyone care to guess how much the “women on combat ships” fiasco has cost us in op tempo, money, and morale?

I’m glad I’m out and never thought I’d say it, but I will never, EVER recommend that service to a young person again.

Men and women are not equals and never will be, regardless of how many B*’s the SecNav may be getting under his desk.

[truthguy]

Do any of these idiots that think this is such a great idea ever spend time on a sub?

They don't think it's a great idea but they won't speak out unless they are retired. I know a retired colonel who I talk to regularly at the dog park I frequent. He an extremely nice guy and very candid. What he has told me is that officers are extremely unlikely to cross swords with politicians because it can end their careers. This is particularly true after you reach the rank of Brigadier or Rear Admiral. They want to get their time in and collect their retirement pay at full amount. We've seen presidents end the career of senior military men on a number of occasions.

I suspect that all the Navy brass think this is a terrible idea. I'd be willing to bet that 90% think women on surface warships is a bad idea. But none of them will say this. If you want real opinions, ask the officers after they retire and then they will tell you the truth.