[Doug Loss]

Man50D, you continue to display that you don’t listen. You say “There is no victory in attaching yourself to a party that is willing to compromise those principles.” You clearly don’t understand (or refuse to see, which amounts to the same thing) that I’m not advocating “attaching” ourselves to the current party, but taking over the party aparatus and in essence overthrowing the current party. Yes, you’re the problem, in so far as people might listen to you and think all is lost and there’s no reason to try anymore. Your “winning strategy of strong Conservative principles” is no such thing. It’s just chronic whining.

[Man50D]

You clearly don’t understand (or refuse to see, which amounts to the same thing) that I’m not advocating “attaching” ourselves to the current party, but taking over the party aparatus and in essence overthrowing the current party.

You, like many other people who insist on remaining in the OP, continue to ignore my question. I will ask again! Why didn't you and like minded people take back the party when years ago when there was far less socialism?

The fact none of you have failed to already take back the party and refuse to answer my very simple question perfectly illustrates your inability to stop the socialist takeover.

Yes, you’re the problem, in so far as people might listen to you and think all is lost and there’s no reason to try anymore.

You're not paying attention Doug. I have stated conservatism is not lost so long as people get off the socialist light OP merry go round and accept the fact it will be far better to form a second party based on Conservatism. Blaming conservatives for your lack of effectiveness and deep state of denial is the problem.

Your “winning strategy of strong Conservative principles” is no such thing. It’s just chronic whining.

And there in lies the problem with OP party members. They interpret being steadfast on Conservatism as whining. That is the kind of thinking that has destroyed and will continue to destroy the OP by driving Conservatives out of the party. You in turn whine because of your failure to accept the OP is a dying party for Conservatives.