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To: DakotaRed; Bokababe; bamahead; dcwusmc
I hate to be the one to tell you this, ut radical Jihadists do not come into teh country to take advnatage of “incentives.” They come in fully funded to kill us!

That is complete and utter bullsh*t.

Al Qaeda operative had $50k in unsecured loans from bailout banks

Jordanian illegal attempts to blow up Dallas skyscraper
According to a press release, Smadi is in the United States illegally and had been living and working in Italy, Texas.

If they are all fully funded, as you claim, then why the need to take out credit card loans or simply work and collect a paycheck?

And as for that part about "com[ing] in" to the U.S., exactly who do you think lets them in? Controlling the flow of people across U.S. borders is the job of the federal agencies that control...immigration!

We are far from a Police State, but will we be if we follow Paul and wait until they are freely roaming our streets, setting up ied’s and suicide bombings?

"Wait until"...so in other words, as you admit, such dire events are NOT happening NOW, in the present, but at some future point in time, if we follow a certain course of action. However, I assure you that there are illegal aliens (irrespective of nationality) that have committed serious crimes (rape, manslaughter, fraud, murder, homicide, drug trafficking, hit-and-run) in the past and are doing so in the present and will do so in the future.

So let me ask you this, which is the bigger threat: the folks who might, at some future time, enter the United States with the intent of committing criminal acts...or folks who are already here, abusing U.S. laws and already committing criminal acts?

I’d much rather fight them over there and not here on our streets.

For how long? Forever?

And who's "them"? And where is "there"?

And that doesn't really solve the problem of how foreign terrorists enter the U.S. to begin with, unless you assume that all the terrorists are stupid (which they clearly are not, as several of the 9/11 terrorists obtained U.S. drivers' licenses and bank accounts by abusing the same system that illegal aliens are presently abusing) and will follow like dumb sheep to one or two locations where U.S. armed forces can conveniently dispatch them.

Instead of repeating Bush-Hannity talking points, why don't you start using your brain for once and get your priorities straight. Foreign nationals that cross U.S. borders into U.S. territory, terrorists or otherwise...that's a problem of immigration. Going abroad to kill them on their own turf is pointless unless you first make sure that they can't get in in the first place.

116 posted on 10/04/2009 9:08:23 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul advocates stopping incentives to keep illegal immigrants out.

Maybe for Mexicans sneaking across thatwould work, but as even you linked, and called my point complete and utter bulls*t, the terrorists come in with money.

Hate to be the one to say it, but the perpetrators of 911 were here before the bailouts.

Show me where Smadi was receiving public benefits.

Yes, they will use our money when they need to, but they do not come in for benefits, as Paul contends.

Collecting a paycheck and credit cards is not what draws them, although they may use some.

Paul is “Offended” at a fence, ut how else do we make it difficult to block them? Place Troops in desolate areas where they will die of bordem waiting for someone to come in?

Oh yes, last I heard, those borders are also within states. Relying solely on the feds, while complaining about the feds is a just a tad hypocritcal, don’t you think?

We are stopping those who try currently, but if Paul and Obama have their way, those means set in place to capture those that are here will disappear.

Remember, Paul doesn’t like such Police work. He opposed the very means used to ferret out and capture those you list in your comment.

How long do we fight them? As long as it takes if it minimizes a repeat of 911.

But don’t worry, Brave Americans continue to volunteer, you won’t have to sully your hands.

I laugh at your attempt at ad hominem in regards to listening to “Bush-Hannity talking points,” after you spew the hyperbole of Ron Paul.


119 posted on 10/04/2009 10:27:19 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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