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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul advocates stopping incentives to keep illegal immigrants out.

Maybe for Mexicans sneaking across thatwould work, but as even you linked, and called my point complete and utter bulls*t, the terrorists come in with money.

Hate to be the one to say it, but the perpetrators of 911 were here before the bailouts.

Show me where Smadi was receiving public benefits.

Yes, they will use our money when they need to, but they do not come in for benefits, as Paul contends.

Collecting a paycheck and credit cards is not what draws them, although they may use some.

Paul is “Offended” at a fence, ut how else do we make it difficult to block them? Place Troops in desolate areas where they will die of bordem waiting for someone to come in?

Oh yes, last I heard, those borders are also within states. Relying solely on the feds, while complaining about the feds is a just a tad hypocritcal, don’t you think?

We are stopping those who try currently, but if Paul and Obama have their way, those means set in place to capture those that are here will disappear.

Remember, Paul doesn’t like such Police work. He opposed the very means used to ferret out and capture those you list in your comment.

How long do we fight them? As long as it takes if it minimizes a repeat of 911.

But don’t worry, Brave Americans continue to volunteer, you won’t have to sully your hands.

I laugh at your attempt at ad hominem in regards to listening to “Bush-Hannity talking points,” after you spew the hyperbole of Ron Paul.


119 posted on 10/04/2009 10:27:19 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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Paul is “Offended” at a fence, ut how else do we make it difficult to block them? Place Troops in desolate areas where they will die of bordem waiting for someone to come in?

Oh yes, last I heard, those borders are also within states. Relying solely on the feds, while complaining about the feds is a just a tad hypocritcal, don’t you think?
[sic]

Projecting, aren't we?

Where did I say that I wanted to place troops "in desolate areas"? Where did I "complain" in a "hypocritcal" [sic] manner, as you allege?

Here's what I actually said, right at post 80:

The best that can be done to reasonably ensure the security of U.S. territory and lawfully-present persons within said territory, while simultaneously preserving their individual freedom and liberty, is three-fold: one, enforce valid immigration law; two, remove the incentives for foreign nationals to enter and reside in the United States illegally, or, i.e., no more public benefits, no more anchor baby citizenship, no more free education, etc; and three, abide by the Second Amendment, which defines the unconditional right of the individual to bear arms, whether in defense of self, household, and property or in defense of community (via a militia).

All I called for was the enforcement of valid immigration law, the removal of incentives for foreign nationals to enter and reside in the United States illegally, and a boost to the Second Amendment.

Is that "hyperbole," or are you just sniffing glue?

How long do we fight them? As long as it takes if it minimizes a repeat of 911. [sic]

Perhaps you meant to say "minimizes [the potential for] a repeat of 911" [sic]. But, unlike you, I'm not going to put words in the mouth of a fellow Freeper, so I'll just assume that you meant that you are okay with "a repeat of 911" [sic], so long as it is "minimize[d]," whatever that may mean.

Let me remind you that the 9/11 hijackers were admitted to the U.S. by federal immigration services as lawful visitors and abused the same systems to obtain drivers' licenses and bank accounts that illegal aliens have abused. Want to prevent another 9/11? Stop terrorists as they try to cross into U.S. territory. Allow U.S. citizens trained and certified by the government to carry weapons aboard planes as deputy air marshals. Empower U.S. citizens and lawful residents of U.S. territory to defend themselves against would-be terrorists so that, next time a bunch of terrorists try to hijack an airliner, or a rail car, or a bus, instead of planes flying into the ground or building, they will land safely at U.S. airports with dead terrorists and live passengers and crew aboard.

THAT is how you prevent another 9/11.

But don’t worry, Brave Americans continue to volunteer, you won’t have to sully your hands.

Brave Americans...like Marine Cpl. Brian Mathews, who, after returning home from Iraq for the 2006 holidays, was murdered by an drunk illegal alien driver while on a date, right?

"A guy goes to war and has no problems with that. He comes back to the States, and it's supposed to be our safe place."—Marine Cpl. Garrett Farris, on the death of Marine Cpl. Brian Mathews

Oh, I forgot, Bush kept us--including that poor Marine, God rest his soul--"safe," and Cpl. Farris is just an idiot. /sarc

after you spew the hyperbole of Ron Paul.

That's funny, considering the link on his views on immigration that you yourself provided at post 70 makes quite a bit of sense, unless you're a globalist RINO or a Democrat with a "New World Order" agenda. No amnesty, no benefits, no free hospital care, no birthright citizenship, allow police to ask about immigration status, etc. Do you have a problem with any of those? Or perhaps you think that the illegal alien is not of any significant concern to Americans, probably because, as you implied earlier, there are no illegal aliens (or organized criminal gangs smuggling drugs and only God knows what else) crossing the border ["place Troops in desolate areas where they will die of bordem waiting for someone to come in?" (sic)]?

You know, it's also funny that you whine about sending U.S. troops to "desolate areas where they will die of bordem" [sic] while openly backing sending U.S. troops to desolate places like Afghanistan where many of them will probably die, period. But hey, some poor Afghani opium farmer will have "freedom," right? [Not to mention the opportunity to export more poppy to the West!] Nevermind the fact that some U.S. troops who return home might just be killed in car accidents caused by illegal aliens that Federal authorities just don't want to deal with. Nevermind the fact that young U.S. taxpayers like myself will have to contend with the debts incurred in our name by globalist warhawks, in addition to the many "compassionate[ly] conservative" domestic hydras that they spawned.

But hey, go right on ahead and ignoring the white elephant in the room (the illegal alien invasion, Aztlan separatists, criminal gangs, illegal alien terrorists, etc.) while chasing after Wilsonian windmills (foreign nation-building).

120 posted on 10/04/2009 11:18:46 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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