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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 4 October 2009
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 4 October 2009 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/04/2009 5:00:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: csmusaret

At some point, the Obama administration will change the rules for pensions (ERISA-Dept of Labor) and IRA’a/401(k)’s to mandate that a small, but increasing percentage, of these plans invest in Treasury instruments. TIPS would be the best, but who knows. Basically, the US government would issues IOU’s to the citizens to make the debt roll-over.


321 posted on 10/04/2009 9:29:49 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The 1/2 or more of your 60 million recipients who are now getting it free.

And how are the other half getting Medicaid? Paying for it?

322 posted on 10/04/2009 9:31:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I’ve got one, but it’s top secrets and includes getting hold of the rare Hair of Pawlenty—also spelled ‘polenta’ in some ethnic neighborhoods outside of MN.


323 posted on 10/04/2009 9:34:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Oh MY God,
Van Huevel on Stephie is saying “MCcrystal SHOULD go back and read the constitution!”

Good God, what is happening to this country.?

Watch 2 mins of this stuff...and you find yourself in Alice In Wonderland....the good news is that the Lefties are hysterical in their anxiety about Obozo getting nothing done and that is fun to watch.


Van Commie also said that the stimulus is flopping because it was “watered down to meet Republican objections,” which she also said is/will be true of Obamacare.

First, as long as one Republican is alive and drawing breath these Bolsheviks will continue to blame Republicans.

Second, don’t the RINOS ever GET IT? When crap like the stimulus and Obamacare completely flop THEY will be blamed for it by the commies who will just move all the weak minded useful idiots further left yet again.

Third, even though it hasn’t yet passed in Congress, the Left is already declaring Obamacare a failure and blaming it on Bush (well, the Republicans).

Fourth, the only position for the Republicans to have on any and all of this Obamsky crapola is to say NO. Like William Buckley famously said, “Just STOP.” Otherwise, there is no useful position.

As for what is happening to the country, amen to that. In a sane society agreeing with someone like Van Commie would be grounds for deportation.


324 posted on 10/04/2009 9:34:57 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: kabar
Obama was the tool of the Chicago political machine...

Thanks for sharing, Sherlock.

325 posted on 10/04/2009 9:35:02 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Chuck54
The "mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussien Obama" was taken from one of the songs that was being drilled into the kindergartner's heads.

That is correct. But Rush picked it up and turned it into a mocking refrain the day the Zero came in last in the Olympic vote.

326 posted on 10/04/2009 9:35:42 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: kabar
No, it's medical welfare. Should the federal govt be funding it? No...in my opinion...but it is.

Should the states be funding it? Maybe, or managing a side fund that would pay for hospital charity care and free clinics.

Should the churches and community social programs be taking care of the truly needy? Absolutely.

You're not suggesting that there should not be a safety net are you?

327 posted on 10/04/2009 9:40:13 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

How does Bowvoe get a round table spot on MTP?? She gets zero ratings and bring her radical leftist voice on a once dignified show. Nobody else gets to speak.

Pray for America and Our Troops


328 posted on 10/04/2009 9:41:58 AM PDT by bray (Stalin is in the WH)
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To: Son House

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sens. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.;

Ensign Sex, Øcarter non-stimulus job creation, climate change bill, clean energy,

^
Finally the last question in the health care segment is on health care

CNN King-a-ling “Will you put some thing up?”

Jon Kyl rattles off all the stuff King-a-ling would know if he were a Freeper/sarc off


329 posted on 10/04/2009 9:42:25 AM PDT by Son House (President Øbama => Status: AWOL)
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To: Miss Marple

Beck comments about BOTH parties being corrupt and BOTH parties being bad

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Yep, Beck never squealed so loud when Republicans were in majorities


330 posted on 10/04/2009 9:44:14 AM PDT by Son House (President Øbama => Status: AWOL)
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To: Miss Marple

Perot’s votes didn’t cost Bush the election

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those folks were never, ever going to vote for Clinton#1


331 posted on 10/04/2009 9:45:48 AM PDT by Son House (President Øbama => Status: AWOL)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No, but the incentives are to get more people off of private insurance and into Medicaid. Some states are incuding people of more than 200% above the poverty level. And when you include the federal matching funds, on average, 22% of state budgets are spent of Medicaid. It is bankrupting the states.


332 posted on 10/04/2009 9:46:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rodguy911

It’s all philosophy MNJ. Either you believe in our economy/small business and use a stimulus plan to actually stimulate business, reduce the burden on small business and help fund them or you buy votes and pay off political favors with huge amounts of money. Guess which one we got.


Right. An actual stimulus is designed as an investment and pays off as new areas of the economy open up and the legacy economy gets more robust. I HATE saying this, I really do, but even Bill Clinton and Al Gore generally understood this principle. I think Comrade Obamsky simply does not care as he is out to completely destroy America.


333 posted on 10/04/2009 9:46:49 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Miss Marple

Murphy and Frum representing the Repubs is a disgrace. Talk about getting rolled. Now rip into Palin, how cliche. What disagreements InSain??

Obozo is not evidence of harshness Frum? Tell that to Harpy. Wait for the book to get spellchecked? What a snark.

Pray for America


334 posted on 10/04/2009 9:47:03 AM PDT by bray (Stalin is in the WH)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; kabar
Medicaid people should go to free clinics for ALL medical services except actual emergencies. Those clinics should be staffed by med students, volunteer doctors and nurses, and volunteer office workers.

The only people who should be in emergency rooms are people with injuries which require more than a bandaid and some iodine.

Medicaid people should not be going to private physician offices causing their costs to skyrocket. (I took my grandchild to the pediatrician several years ago and on the sign-in list where you were to put who was the responsible person for payment, almost 80% had written "Medicaid.")

There was a reason that many years ago hospitals had "charity wards." Hospitals shouldn't be giving Cadillac treatment to people who aren't even shouldering the cost. Do I mean they should be denied treatment? No! However, I do NOT think they need to be in fancy rooms with TV, phone service, and picking their meals from a menu. That should be for people who cover their expenses when the bill is paid.

335 posted on 10/04/2009 9:48:20 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: eCSMaster

OK, so I don’t proof so well. You know what I meant.


336 posted on 10/04/2009 9:48:38 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Is it too soon for real conservatives to launch a "We Tried to Warn You Tour"?)
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To: 9yearluker
There is a reason Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity/Mike Savage are talkshow hosts and not politicians.

Simply repeating the Libertarian/Conservative slogans of talk radio hosts about “cutting taxes/cutting spending” does not actually provide real world solutions to real world problems.

Here is an excellent example of why Conservatives are the minority part of a minority party and destine to stay that way.

Your “solution” is to demand everyone walk in lock step with your ideological based preconceptions. You are not giving anything for the “moderate” or the “Centerist” to vote with you on. You are demanding “my way or the highway”.

Thank might make for great talk radio or fire up internet chat rooms, it not a workable serious real world solution.

337 posted on 10/04/2009 9:49:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The 0 years, Too bad a requirement for adult supervision was not put into the Constitution)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Medicaid went largely unnoticed when it first came into being in mid-1965, meriting only passing mention from President Lyndon B. Johnson at a bill-signing ceremony in Independence, Mo., that focused on the passage of the Medicare health plan for Americans over age 65.

But four decades later, Medicaid’s numbers are eye-popping. It is now the nation’s largest health insurance program, covering 59 million poor people (53 million in traditional Medicaid and 6 million in the State Children’s Health Insurance Program), or one in six Americans, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. It pays for 37 percent of all births in the United States and helps foot the bills for more than 60 percent of all patients in nursing homes.

With states picking up nearly half of Medicaid’s $320 billion costs this year – and the federal government the rest – it’s little wonder that Medicaid is constantly generating controversy in state capitols and in Washington, D.C. Cut it, and politicians face accusations of harming the country’s most vulnerable citizens. But doing nothing is costly, too. Medicaid costs have been growing at 6 percent or more annually, twice the rate of inflation, and threaten to swamp state budgets.

Medicaid covers the poor and working class, but not all of them. The program is designed for low-income pregnant women, parents and children, the elderly, blind and disabled. It’s limited to Americans and legal immigrants, largely those who have been in the country more than five years.

That population includes some of the sickest – and most expensive – patients in the health care system. States try to clamp down on those costs, but at the risk of angering doctors, dentists, hospitals, nursing homes and drug companies that provide the services.

The impact on state budgets is huge. Accounting for 22 percent of state spending, Medicaid recently surpassed elementary and secondary education as the most expensive item on state ledgers, once federal matching grants are taken into account. And because Medicaid is geared toward poor people, its expenses and enrollments climb when states can least afford them: when the economy turns sour.


338 posted on 10/04/2009 9:50:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: bray

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich

“Access to Capitol”

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More Keynesian liquidity

The electric car => a tax credit

More than half the battery grants are in Michigan


339 posted on 10/04/2009 9:51:04 AM PDT by Son House (President Øbama => Status: AWOL)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; rodguy911; Alas Babylon!; All
This is what is happening .... we have a dangerous fool in the White House

MSNBC removed it from their front page .. pass it on

340 posted on 10/04/2009 9:51:23 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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