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To: 444Flyer

“THE RULES MURDERING OUR TROOPS”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2347085/posts

“OBAMA’S RULES OF ENGAGEMENT IN AFGHANISTAN COSTING OUR TROOPS LIVES”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2335891/posts

“WE’RE PINNED DOWN:’4 U.S. MARINES DIE IN AFGAN ABUSH”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2335142/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2336737/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2335336/posts

“AMBUSHED MARINES’ AID CALL ‘REJECTED’”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2340992/posts

“GIS TOLD NOT TO RISK CIVILIAN LIVES”

http://www.military.com/cs/Satellite?c=maArticle&cid=1199422047446&pagename=News%2FnwsLayout

“BAGRAM INMATES CAN CHALLENGE DETENTION: PENTAGON”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2339337/posts

“ANALYSIS: WHITE HOUSE POSTPONING HARD CALLS ON WAR”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2340176/posts

“NO DEADLINE FOR TROOPS WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN: OBAMA ADMN”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2334327/posts

“MILITARY LEERY OF AFGHANISTAN ESCALATION WITH NO CLEAR GOALS”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2335026/posts

“RULES OF ENGAGEMENT REVISITED’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2346439/posts

“Military growing impatient with Obama on Afghanistan”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2343591/posts

“General’s Review Creates Rupture”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2345392/posts

McChrystal: More Forces or ‘Mission Failure’ (Drudge headline)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2344592/posts

“McChrystal to resign if not given resources for Afghanistan”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2345519/posts

“US Commander denies Afghanistan rift(Gen. Stanley McChrystal)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2347738/posts

“No rift between military and White House: Gates”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2349510/posts

“Obama Is Considering Strategy Shift in Afghan War”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2346300/posts

“Obama is reevaluating Afghanistan war strategy”

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghanistan22-2009sep22,0,908493.story

“MILITARY: Marines Await Word on Deployment Troop assignments not yet clear... (Ubama confusion)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2345299/posts

“Reading Miranda Rights to Terrorists Is ‘Crazy’ and ‘Stupid,’ Say GOP Congressmen”

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=49738

“Miranda rights for terrorists: Next, toothbrushes and teddy bears!”

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/11/miranda-rights-for-terrorists-next-toothbrushes-and-teddy-bears/

U.N. Lawyers Target U.S. Troops

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=505775

“Obama: Afghanistan not ‘American battle’ but NATO mission”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2351646/posts


60 posted on 10/03/2009 11:52:32 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: All
Tuesday September 8, 2009

'We're pinned down:'

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/75036.html?storylink=MI_emailed

(snip)..Dashing from boulder to boulder, diving into trenches and ducking behind stone walls as the insurgents maneuvered to outflank us, we waited more than an hour for U.S. helicopters to arrive, despite earlier assurances that air cover would be five minutes away.

U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties, rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines — despite being told repeatedly that they weren't near the village.

"We are pinned down. We are running low on ammo. We have no air. We've lost today," Marine Maj. Kevin Williams, 37, said through his translator to his Afghan counterpart, responding to the latter's repeated demands for helicopters."

(snip)"...The Americans were there to give advice and call for air and artillery support if required."

(snip) "...Several U.S. officers said they suspected that the insurgents had been tipped off by sympathizers in the local Afghan security forces or by the village elders,.."

(snip)"..Lt. Fabayo and several other soldiers later said they'd seen women and children in the village shuttling ammunition to fighters positioned in windows and roofs. Across the valley and from their ridgeline outposts, the Afghans and Americans fired back.

(snip)"...At 5:50 a.m., Army Capt. Will Swenson, of Seattle, WA, the trainer of the Afghan Border Police unit in Shakani, began calling for air support or artillery fire from a unit of the Army's 10th Mountain Division. The responses came back: No helicopters were available.

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NOTE: The women and children running ammo for the insurgents. The village elders undermining the U.S. efforts and siding with the Insurgency.

NOTE: Obama and McChrystal's new ROE's are protecting and defending the enemy. Not our troops.

63 posted on 10/04/2009 12:00:47 AM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: 444Flyer

Great compilation of threads- thanks.

This is a true nightmare. An escalating war, led by a CIC who is not equipped to grasp tactics and strategy and who listens to the advice of appeasers. He’s now changed the ROE’s to be suicide instructions while giving the enemy the rights our own citizens enjoy when arrested.

With this mindset in play- and this man in charge -I think it’s time to bring them home.


147 posted on 10/04/2009 4:38:25 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: 444Flyer

Bookmark !!


327 posted on 10/04/2009 9:34:19 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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