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Mark Steyn: Beyond Transgression - You can’t make a Hamlet without breaking a few chicks?
National Review Online ^ | October 03, 2009 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/03/2009 8:27:42 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Steyn bump!


21 posted on 10/03/2009 9:46:16 AM PDT by Gritty (Unable to protect children from our selfish self-absorption, we protect them from falls-VanDerLeun)
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To: Interesting Times
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Steyn is regarded in 100 years much as we see Mark Twain today.

Not a nice wish. The real Mark Twain had a child seduction issues of his own, much like Polanski.

22 posted on 10/03/2009 9:56:37 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: neverdem

“in Roman Polanksi years” will live on!

Great Line.


23 posted on 10/03/2009 9:56:41 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Not a nice wish. The real Mark Twain had a child seduction issues of his own, much like Polanski.

I meant as a literary figure and observer of his times, of course.

24 posted on 10/03/2009 10:00:30 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: supremedoctrine

Bravo!


25 posted on 10/03/2009 10:04:02 AM PDT by gigster
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To: Interesting Times
I meant as a literary figure and observer of his times, of course.

Of course, I knew what you meant. It was an inappropriate comparison to draw, considering Clemons' latter years. His daughter, who lived next door (I think), had to ride herd on him and his visitors. Of course I never read that about him until I was much older. I did enjoy his writing as a child. I'm glad that I did not know the dirty details then.

The Jumping Frog of Calaveras County was always one of my favorites because I had lived in Calaveras County as a 4 year old.

26 posted on 10/03/2009 10:06:01 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: neverdem

Hollywood types are so scummy. Half didn’t graduate high school...the other half are felons. That being said Mark is hot.


27 posted on 10/03/2009 10:06:39 AM PDT by barbarianbabs (Who is John Galt?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The Jumping Frog of Calaveras County was always one of my favorites because I had lived in Calaveras County as a 4 year old.

I think that's the first of his short stories I ever read.

28 posted on 10/03/2009 10:11:13 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Interesting Times

That’s an interesting comparison. I agree.


29 posted on 10/03/2009 10:12:40 AM PDT by steel_resolve (If you won't cry havoc now, what exactly will it take??)
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To: neverdem

Dang, he’s good.


30 posted on 10/03/2009 10:21:51 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Oscar Wilde was a truly great artist and a homosexual at a time it was impossible to be a homosexual. Gay to the end, I think his last words were, on his deathbed:
“ Either those drapes go, or I do”.


31 posted on 10/03/2009 10:25:25 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I know a LOT about Mark Twain, and don’t know of any “child seduction issues” that were conceivably
comparable to Polanski’s. Would you elaborate? That was the comparison you made, while the poster you replied to
made the comparison of Steyn and Twain, which is a pretty good one.


32 posted on 10/03/2009 10:36:07 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced.)
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To: supremedoctrine

Hmmmm... You need to break out your old copy and look through it with a closer eye. In “Huckleberry Finn” as Jim and Huck are making their way lazily down the river—between adventures—our friend and humble narrator drops a line saying our heroes spend most of their time naked. Immediately after, Twain gives us a homoerotic passage where Huck describes himself lazily drifting off to sleep in a warm rain...

Well, it sho’ nuff’ made ME nervous.


33 posted on 10/03/2009 11:16:42 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: neverdem
Yet all truly great art is made in the tension between freedom and constraint. In demanding that an artist be placed above the laws of man, Harvey Weinstein & Co. are also putting him beyond the possibility of art. Which may explain the present state of the movie industry.

Yes it does.

As others have pointed out, and I only reiterate, Hollywood's greatest era was under the "constraints" of the Hayes Code, from 1930 -68.

34 posted on 10/03/2009 11:57:33 AM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: Interesting Times
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Steyn is regarded in 100 years much as we see Mark Twain today.

Astute observation!

35 posted on 10/03/2009 11:58:17 AM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: neverdem

A Steyn-is-a-genius bump


36 posted on 10/03/2009 12:02:24 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: barbarianbabs
That being said Mark is hot.

Mark is hot Bump!

37 posted on 10/03/2009 12:04:10 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: neverdem

Hawhaw—has Steyn written one of his delightfully stinging pieces on the O-Stooges Excellent Copenhagen Adventure?


38 posted on 10/03/2009 12:14:22 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: neverdem

Yay, MARK!


39 posted on 10/03/2009 12:55:47 PM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: Interesting Times
"I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Steyn is regarded in 100 years much as we see Mark Twain today."

Oh, he's way better than Twain. Twain was regrettably inconsistent in quality. Most of his stuff is beyond boring, even rather bad, often unreadable. Steyn, by comparison, is almost always superb, entertaining, insightful, clever. With a few exceptions, Twain ranked way down the Steynian scale.
40 posted on 10/03/2009 1:58:10 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Cheney/Palin 2012!)
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