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Mark Steyn: Beyond Transgression - You can’t make a Hamlet without breaking a few chicks?
National Review Online ^
| October 03, 2009
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 10/03/2009 8:27:42 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
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posted on
10/03/2009 9:46:16 AM PDT
by
Gritty
(Unable to protect children from our selfish self-absorption, we protect them from falls-VanDerLeun)
To: Interesting Times
I wouldnt be at all surprised if Steyn is regarded in 100 years much as we see Mark Twain today.Not a nice wish. The real Mark Twain had a child seduction issues of his own, much like Polanski.
To: neverdem
“in Roman Polanksi years” will live on!
Great Line.
To: afraidfortherepublic
Not a nice wish. The real Mark Twain had a child seduction issues of his own, much like Polanski. I meant as a literary figure and observer of his times, of course.
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:00:30 AM PDT
by
Interesting Times
(For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
To: supremedoctrine
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:04:02 AM PDT
by
gigster
To: Interesting Times
I meant as a literary figure and observer of his times, of course. Of course, I knew what you meant. It was an inappropriate comparison to draw, considering Clemons' latter years. His daughter, who lived next door (I think), had to ride herd on him and his visitors. Of course I never read that about him until I was much older. I did enjoy his writing as a child. I'm glad that I did not know the dirty details then.
The Jumping Frog of Calaveras County was always one of my favorites because I had lived in Calaveras County as a 4 year old.
To: neverdem
Hollywood types are so scummy. Half didn’t graduate high school...the other half are felons. That being said Mark is hot.
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:06:39 AM PDT
by
barbarianbabs
(Who is John Galt?)
To: afraidfortherepublic
The Jumping Frog of Calaveras County was always one of my favorites because I had lived in Calaveras County as a 4 year old. I think that's the first of his short stories I ever read.
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:11:13 AM PDT
by
Interesting Times
(For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
To: Interesting Times
That’s an interesting comparison. I agree.
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:12:40 AM PDT
by
steel_resolve
(If you won't cry havoc now, what exactly will it take??)
To: neverdem
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:21:51 AM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: Mr Ramsbotham
Oscar Wilde was a truly great artist and a homosexual at a time it was impossible to be a homosexual. Gay to the end, I think his last words were, on his deathbed:
“ Either those drapes go, or I do”.
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:25:25 AM PDT
by
supremedoctrine
(The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced.)
To: afraidfortherepublic
I know a LOT about Mark Twain, and don’t know of any “child seduction issues” that were conceivably
comparable to Polanski’s. Would you elaborate? That was the comparison you made, while the poster you replied to
made the comparison of Steyn and Twain, which is a pretty good one.
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posted on
10/03/2009 10:36:07 AM PDT
by
supremedoctrine
(The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced.)
To: supremedoctrine
Hmmmm... You need to break out your old copy and look through it with a closer eye. In “Huckleberry Finn” as Jim and Huck are making their way lazily down the river—between adventures—our friend and humble narrator drops a line saying our heroes spend most of their time naked. Immediately after, Twain gives us a homoerotic passage where Huck describes himself lazily drifting off to sleep in a warm rain...
Well, it sho’ nuff’ made ME nervous.
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posted on
10/03/2009 11:16:42 AM PDT
by
sinanju
To: neverdem
Yet all truly great art is made in the tension between freedom and constraint. In demanding that an artist be placed above the laws of man, Harvey Weinstein & Co. are also putting him beyond the possibility of art. Which may explain the present state of the movie industry. Yes it does.
As others have pointed out, and I only reiterate, Hollywood's greatest era was under the "constraints" of the Hayes Code, from 1930 -68.
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posted on
10/03/2009 11:57:33 AM PDT
by
happygrl
(Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
To: Interesting Times
I wouldnt be at all surprised if Steyn is regarded in 100 years much as we see Mark Twain today. Astute observation!
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posted on
10/03/2009 11:58:17 AM PDT
by
happygrl
(Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
To: neverdem
To: barbarianbabs
That being said Mark is hot. Mark is hot Bump!
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posted on
10/03/2009 12:04:10 PM PDT
by
happygrl
(Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
To: neverdem
Hawhaw—has Steyn written one of his delightfully stinging pieces on the O-Stooges Excellent Copenhagen Adventure?
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posted on
10/03/2009 12:14:22 PM PDT
by
Mamzelle
(Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
To: neverdem
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posted on
10/03/2009 12:55:47 PM PDT
by
RoadTest
( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
To: Interesting Times
"I wouldnt be at all surprised if Steyn is regarded in 100 years much as we see Mark Twain today."
Oh, he's way better than Twain. Twain was regrettably inconsistent in quality. Most of his stuff is beyond boring, even rather bad, often unreadable. Steyn, by comparison, is almost always superb, entertaining, insightful, clever. With a few exceptions, Twain ranked way down the Steynian scale.
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