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Foreclosed Forever: Man Shot by Cops After House Auctioned Off
CBS News ^ | October 1, 2009

Posted on 10/01/2009 6:46:48 PM PDT by Lorianne

PHOENIX (CBS/KPHO) So many these days can relate to the distress of losing a home, but neighbors in one north Phoenix neighborhood are struggling to understand why one man’s struggle had to end the way it did.

Police said the problems started Tuesday when two men drove to a house near 31st Avenue and Sandra Terrace and told the man there that they’d just purchased the home at auction.

"He obviously became upset, made some comments, and went inside and came back out with a gun," said Detective James Holmes of the Phoenix Police Department.

Investigators said the man fired at the new owners' cars. The new owners ran and were not hurt. Officers arriving on scene reported the man at the house had a gun in one hand and a beer in the other. Police say negotiators tried talking him down, but at some point in the negotiations, the man pointed his gun at a police vehicle.

"At that point, (the SWAT team) fired two sage bullets, which are rubber bullets, at the gentleman. At that point, he raised his weapon and officers returned fire," said Det. Holmes. Neighbors heard several gunshots.

"It breaks my heart," said Jim Ledune, a neighbor.

Another neighbor, who sells foreclosures for a living, said losing a house isn’t worth losing your life, but he does understand how tough it is.

"You've lost more than your home. You've lost something that you stand for, worked hard for and it didn’t work," said Charlie Sykes, a neighbor.

As of Wednesday morning, police had not released the name of the man who was shot and killed by officers or the names of the officers involved in the shooting.


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To: Graybeard58

I’m guessing. It could be non payment of a mortgage but it sounds like this guy had been there for quite a while.


21 posted on 10/01/2009 7:13:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Lorianne
My guess is he had murder in his heart but couldn’t do it. He wanted to die too, that’s easier and he succeeded.

22 posted on 10/01/2009 7:13:56 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Lorianne

Brutal...Very sad.


23 posted on 10/01/2009 7:14:59 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: MileHi
Sorry, but that is Sheriff Arpaio country

Never said it wasn't.

24 posted on 10/01/2009 7:15:56 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

No, you didn’t. You only implied it.


25 posted on 10/01/2009 7:20:38 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: dragnet2

Personally I can’t think of anything more traumatic than losing your home. If it were me they could take my trucks, all my money and leave me sitting in the dark without heat as long as they leave me sitting in my own home.

Losing a house is one thing, but losing a home is quite another.


26 posted on 10/01/2009 7:20:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

You bet...It was probably a job loss and then lost the home...People have gone sideways for a whole lot less.


27 posted on 10/01/2009 7:23:35 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: cripplecreek

Think of how hard it would be to get that back in today’s America. Especially if the guy was on the older side....He’d be lucky to get a job, let alone ever buy a home again.


28 posted on 10/01/2009 7:26:03 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Lorianne

It’s just a stupid house. Get a rental you drunken twit.


29 posted on 10/01/2009 7:29:39 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: Graybeard58
Never been thrilled with the idea of taking a man’s home for delinquent taxes.

Hadn't he ever heard of bankruptcy? It stays the auction--these days almost indefinitely. BK courts are so backlogged now, I have heard of people still in their homes 2 years after the initial judgment of foreclosure.

30 posted on 10/01/2009 7:32:07 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: montag813
It’s just a stupid house.

You might look at your home as just a, "stupid house", but some people have to work really hard most of their lives just to reach the point where they can purchase a home. In this economic environment, millions are/have lost their careers, investments, wages, and homes, and many aren't ever going to get back to where they were.

31 posted on 10/01/2009 7:38:50 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Lorianne

Sad, we’ll soon be seeing much more of the same.. This country is pretty much finished. We won’t survive four years of Obama and his minions. I suspect they will try and fix the 2010 elections. Zimbabwe is the model they want to emulate.


32 posted on 10/01/2009 7:39:15 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Lorianne

Foreclosed by a Glock Model 21 .45 ACP.


33 posted on 10/01/2009 7:50:43 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: dragnet2
You might look at your home as just a, "stupid house", but some people have to work really hard most of their lives just to reach the point where they can purchase a home. In this economic environment, millions are/have lost their careers, investments, wages, and homes, and many aren't ever going to get back to where they were.

That may well be. However if he worked so hard than he could worked hard to look up the word "bankruptcy" which would have kept him in that home for another 9-36 more months.

Or he may have been one of the majority of foreclosures--those who have been in the homes less than 5 years, lured by the rocketing prices and stupid mortgage deduction, when they ought to have been renting. We haven't learned from this crisis to eliminate the perverse deduction, or at least introduce a renter's deduction, so people can make more rational choices absent government distortion of the markets.

34 posted on 10/01/2009 7:56:56 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: Cacique
I suspect they will try and fix the 2010 elections.

Alan Keyes sees a "Reichstag Fire" event staged prior to the 2012 elections. Whatever it is, something nasty is in store for us to be sure.

35 posted on 10/01/2009 7:58:29 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: Cacique

I tend to agree...The Communist, socialist lunatics, and all controlling asshats have basically taken control of government to the point where they’ve very likely corrupted and undermined our electoral process.


36 posted on 10/01/2009 8:04:02 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: MileHi

I’m not a big fan of Sheriff Arpaio.


37 posted on 10/01/2009 8:04:15 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: montag813
That may well be. However if he worked so hard than he could worked hard to look up the word "bankruptcy" which would have kept him in that home for another 9-36 more months.

I don't know he didn't, do you? You can speculate all day, but the fact is, this is a pretty sad story when some Americans are reaching a point where they're just saying, F-it all.

38 posted on 10/01/2009 8:07:57 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
I don't know he didn't, do you? You can speculate all day, but the fact is, this is a pretty sad story when some Americans are reaching a point where they're just saying, F-it all.

I guess I DO speculate all day. You make a good point. We will have to wait a few days to find out the details of this story.

39 posted on 10/01/2009 8:46:33 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: dragnet2

A few years back a friend’s house burned down. It was the place he had grown up and pretty much all he had. I spent the day driving him around to collect clothes and a little cash from friends before taking him to stay with his sister.

On the way to his sister’s house he wanted to stop at his place for a minute but when we got there he refused to get back into the truck with me and said it was his house and it was where he was staying.

If it was summer I would have considered letting him sit through the night to reach his own conclusions but this was in December with freezing rain coming down. I ended up calling 3 more friends and we physically removed him and took him to his sister’s.

His story actually had a pretty happy ending. His insurance money bought the house right next door fairly cheap. His and the house next door were old houses in a situation where they shared a well and pump. Neither house could be sold separately so he got a deal on the house next door.


40 posted on 10/02/2009 4:06:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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