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Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’
Times online ^ | 9/29/2009 | Gore Vidal

Posted on 09/30/2009 6:38:32 AM PDT by stockpirate

The grand old man of letters Gore Vidal claims America is ‘rotting away’ — and don’t expect Barack Obama to save it.

A conversation with Gore Vidal unfolds at his pace. He answers questions imperiously, occasionally playfully, with a piercing, lethal dryness. He is 83 and in a wheelchair (a result of hypothermia suffered in the war, his left knee is made of titanium). But he can walk (“Of course I can”) and after a recent performance of Mother Courage at London’s National Theatre he stood to deliver an anti-war speech to the audience.

(Excerpt) Read more at women.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhofascism; democrats; dictatorship; gorevidal; liberalfascism; obamafascism
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To: geologist

Bush set up a lot of what is going on, I have NO respect for Bush what so ever.


61 posted on 09/30/2009 8:27:26 AM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: Constitution Day

Hey, thank you!


62 posted on 09/30/2009 8:35:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: angkor
Are you suggesting that everyday Harry Homeowner citizens should have engaged in firefights with better-armed and organized law enforcement officers?

Yes. That sounds not simply stupid, but illegal and insane to boot.

Its not stupid if done correctly. The colonists at Concorde bridge weren't insane. Confiscation *is* illegal.

What exactly do you believe was the alternative? During Katrina and in Orleans Parish, would YOU have fought it out against the police?

Police do well against lone individuals, and against small groups, as in a siege situation. If they cops can surround them, then the cops prevail.

If they were pitted against a large and well organized group of homeowners they can't surround, they would crumple like cardboard.

Police go to extreme and sometimes absurd measures to avoid being shot. They require large odds in their favor to take down one armed suspect. A freeway chase involves a half dozen squad cars. A school siege ties up an entire small-town police department. A subdivision seige will tie up an entire metropolitan PD. Few cities have the resources to oppose a few hundred, well armed, well organized citizens. Especially if they can't be besieged.

63 posted on 09/30/2009 8:37:07 AM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Nonstatist

Vidal is now to feeble to go join the Rump Rangers in the San Francisco bath houses.


64 posted on 09/30/2009 8:43:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stockpirate; All

In all honesty, the comments on the article are more interesting and enlightening than the ramblings of this old fool.


65 posted on 09/30/2009 9:04:41 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Spirochete

Let me just state for the record that when you present your preposterous (but conveniently slippery) schemes about a “well organized group of homeowners” fighting law enforcement officers for whatever idiotic reason, you are going deeply against the rule of law that this country stands for.

You are also being a complete lunatic and a nut.

You should be committed to a mental institution.


66 posted on 09/30/2009 9:05:55 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: angkor
Let me just state for the record that when you present your preposterous (but conveniently slippery)

What's preposterous about it? Be specific.

67 posted on 09/30/2009 9:11:20 AM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: stockpirate
Bush was out of his depth on/in many areas. However I have respect and appreciation for his commitments to the Soldiers and service personnel in war theaters, and stateside as well.

His response to 911 is and was vitally important. He was strong when America need him to be strong. He set up Guantanamo out of the states; and prevented future attacks here in America.

No man is perfect. We are all flawed. He was a man of his time. Second term President Bush made many mistakes.

Give him credit for the fact the Democratic held Congress would not pass most all of his appointments (Judicially) and his desired legislations. I am disturbed by his ‘One World Government’ process.

However, the powers that be ... ALL seem to be ‘One World’ promoters/advocates. MO

68 posted on 09/30/2009 9:25:30 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Spirochete

>>> What’s preposterous about it? Be specific. <<<<

It’s illegal.
It’s against the rule of law.
It’s deadly.
You’ll get killed.
You’ll ensure that others suffer the same fate.

You are so stuck in your swirling head full of whacknut ideas that you (willfully) cannot see that intended civilized and legal American public process was fulfilled within moments of the NOLA Chief Of Police issuing his illegal seizure orders.

As soon as it was known, legal processes were put into motion, and the order was quickly rescinded.

You, however, would either be expired (rightfully so for discharging a weapon at law enforcement officers) or be thrown into the hokey on charges of capital murder and many other felony infractions, hopefully to be remanded to a high-security prison for life.

Specific enough for you?


69 posted on 09/30/2009 9:27:38 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: stockpirate

No problem- The more exposure the better.


70 posted on 09/30/2009 9:27:56 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: geologist

What you wrote is on target.


71 posted on 09/30/2009 9:31:39 AM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: wardaddy

Buckley to Vidal: “Now listen, you queer. Stop calling me a crypto-Nazi, or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”

Thanks for mentioning that, I’d forgotten all about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8


72 posted on 09/30/2009 10:09:10 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Did you know that there was a lawsuit and a countersuit about a piece Gore Vidal wrote on this incident? I believe it was written for Esquire magazine.

At one time I read an interesting article that Buckley wrote after all the legal machinations had run their course. I will see if I can located and if I do, I will post the link.


73 posted on 09/30/2009 10:25:12 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: angkor
It’s illegal. It’s against the rule of law. It’s deadly. You’ll get killed. You’ll ensure that others suffer the same fate.

You realize this is a 'dictatorship' thread, don't you?

74 posted on 09/30/2009 11:16:37 AM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Spirochete

>>> You realize this is a ‘dictatorship’ thread, don’t you? <<<

Do you realize I called Gore Vidal’s “dictatorship” thesis “senile” and “a false conclusion” in #29 above?

He’s as much a lunatic as you are.


75 posted on 09/30/2009 11:32:11 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: stockpirate
Seems they many on the left want Obambi to become a martyr.
76 posted on 09/30/2009 5:50:24 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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