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Patriot Act Spares New York Terror Attack
Newsmax ^ | 9-28-09 | James Hirsen

Posted on 09/28/2009 11:33:00 AM PDT by holy joe

Unbelievable.

While serving up caf and decaf, the java guy was secretly working to commit mass murder.

Cream and sugar with your terrorist attack, madam? Glazed or jelly donut with your bomb blast, sir?

The recent arrest of suspected terrorist Najibullah Zazi reminds us all of the important role surveillance plays in safeguarding our people and our nation.

Zazi is in custody on charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction. He was accused last week of conspiring to launch a bombing attack in America with the help of some common beauty supplies and insidious training from al-Qaida in Pakistan.

The terrorism suspect maintains that he was not part of a terrorist cell, according to his attorney, Arthur Folsom.

The 24-year-old Afghan immigrant worked as a vendor-cart operator in Lower Manhattan. He sold coffee and donuts...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: counterterrorism; fbi; foiled; hirsen; islam; jihadinamerica; jttf; patriotact; terror; zazi
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1 posted on 09/28/2009 11:33:02 AM PDT by holy joe
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To: holy joe

But it’s still racism to profile and regardless, if they blow us up first...we can’t blow them up. That would be wrong and immoral. Do we want Europeans to dislike us again????/s


2 posted on 09/28/2009 11:36:50 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
Do we want Europeans to dislike us again????

OH WOW! Now that was funny! Thanks for a badly needed laugh!

3 posted on 09/28/2009 11:37:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The 0 years, Too bad a requirement for adult supervision was not put into the Constitution)
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To: MNJohnnie

bttt


4 posted on 09/28/2009 11:42:14 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: holy joe

Obummer is blind to what America needs.


5 posted on 09/28/2009 11:44:07 AM PDT by ncfool (Cash for Clunkers - A big failure and Obama and rats want us to trust them with our healthcare!)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Ax; Azeem; ...

USSID 18 is getting harder and harder to interpret. Is Comrade Obama to be considered a U.S. Person or a foreign agent?


6 posted on 09/28/2009 11:46:23 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: holy joe
But for the much-maligned Patriot Act provisions that equip authorities with warrants to wiretap and seize records of terror suspects, the unthinkable would have happened.

Law enforcement could do such things before the PATRIOT Act.

What I - as well as the author - have no idea of is if the investigative techniques used here were via the PATRIOT Act or any of the other numerous powers available to law enforcement before 9/11.

7 posted on 09/28/2009 11:48:54 AM PDT by gdani (I just want to be left on this block of ice...)
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To: holy joe
I'm afraid of searching for what he was trying to make, but I am curious. On the other hand, he could just as well have been setting up a meth lab.
8 posted on 09/28/2009 11:50:23 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: holy joe
Wildcat bomber, and kind of stupid.

According to documents filed in New York federal court, Zazi and others had taken a Qatar Airlines flight to Pakistan in August 2008. While there, he allegedly e-mailed himself notes on how to make and handle bombs.

Whether the stuff he was messing around with was in sufficient quantity to bring down a building, or just wreak havoc on mass transit, they don't say. With the peroxide and acetone it sounds like he was trying to make the so called "mother of Satan" explosive TATP. He could easily have blown himself up.

9 posted on 09/28/2009 12:00:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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Prior to the Patriot Act you could get a warrant to wire tap a specific phone or line only. Now you can get a warrant to wire tap a person.

With disposable cell phones being readily available, this is the only way to listen in on terrorists over time.

I am concerned that this power is now in the hands of America-hating idiots, but it was sorely needed post 9/11.


10 posted on 09/28/2009 12:01:26 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“He could easily have blown himself up. “

Good.


11 posted on 09/28/2009 12:08:49 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Crusher138

Sorely needed and wisely used.


12 posted on 09/28/2009 12:15:17 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

No, bad that it didn’t happen!


13 posted on 09/28/2009 12:18:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: holy joe

WRONG!

Local, state and federal law enforcement had all the tools they needed to catch this guy BEFORE 9/11 and the so-called “Patriot Act”.

The neo-cons, closet Bush/Cheney “big government conservatives” and the liberals, still controlling the federal bureaucracy, now have even better tools and official (but lame) excuses to harass ordinary law-abiding gunowners under the guise of fighting the so-called “war on terror”.

This arrest is NOT a validation of the so-called “Patriot Act.”


14 posted on 09/28/2009 12:28:18 PM PDT by MagnusMaximus1 (Molon Labe!)
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To: Crusher138
It seems that a warrant to tap conversations of a person should extend to any phone the person uses under current 4th Amendment analysis anyway. The SCOTUS used to look at places but now the expectation of privacy of the individual is the question. If probable cause to listen in on the person exists, then the actual phone used would not really matter. Legislation clearing that up is fine with me since it is consistent with Constitutional protections anyways.
15 posted on 09/28/2009 12:28:26 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: holy joe

This can’t be right....I remember all the outrage, accusations against conspiracy boooosh, and Obama deriding the patriot act........

Oh wait, that was before Obama was ‘selected’...


16 posted on 09/28/2009 12:35:45 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You can also make a liquid explosive with that combination that is much easier to handle and won’t blow your face off before you can actually use it. However, it also has less power. The guy who blew himself up in the parking lot of the football game(forget which one)was using TATP but of course he wasn’t a terrorist according to the FBI and Bush administration.


17 posted on 09/28/2009 12:35:48 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: freeperfromnj

How’s your fruit vendor doing these days?


18 posted on 09/28/2009 12:43:21 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 250 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ASA Vet

Wouldn’t he have to be a U.S. citizen to be considered a “U.S. Person”?...


19 posted on 09/28/2009 12:45:05 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 250 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Actually no, by USSID 18 standards a U.S. Person is someone here legally, or a U.S. citizen overseas. Comrade Obamas status still hasn’t been determined.


20 posted on 09/28/2009 12:52:03 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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