Posted on 09/28/2009 9:46:05 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Yesterday, Public Policy Polling released results of a poll showing that 42 percent of Republicans nationwide do not believe Barack Obama was born in the United States. This sort of statistic has become old news by now. Despite overwhelming evidence that the president was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen, a core of Americans remain convinced he was born overseas.
But with pollsters frantically trying to get in on the birther action, has anyone stopped to ask whether Sen. John McCain was born in the United States? McCain was actually born in Panama, but is considered a natural-born citizen, since he was born to an American military family stationed on a U.S. base. And, except for perhaps a small fringe, no one has questioned whether he would have been constitutionally qualified to be president.
We've poked around a bit and been unable to find any professional poll that asked Americans whether they believed McCain was born in the U.S. The fact that he was physically born outside the U.S. should have had no bearing on his own legitimacy, real or perceived, had he been elected president. But it would be interesting to see how many of the people who believe, incorrectly, that Obama was born outside the U.S. realize that McCain actually was not.
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We had one here on FR. He insisted McCain would be disqualified by being born in the Canal Zone. Haven’t seen much of him lately.
It would appear that Mr. Graham is having acute birther anxiety. Why else would he write such a poorly researched article.
Perhaps I am giving him too much credibility. Maybe he is just stupid.
He's NOT one of us, therfore, he won't.
A messiah doesn't have any because he never gets/got sick!
"Birther" refers to people who are filling in the blanks with theories because the definitive documents are not available. Whether the documents lead to conclusions of natural-born citizenship or not becomes a point of fact. Short of the evidence, "birthers" are forced to fill in the blanks with Obama, but not with McCain.
-PJ
McCain can and has produced a valid birth certificate.
Obama hasn’t/can’t.
That’s the difference.
“for the proposition that birth location is the ONLY thing that matters, and even a person born of two foreign parents, on vacation in the US, is a US-natural-born citizen. A cottage industry exists now, where Korean and Japanese families who are financially well-off, schedule birth vacations to the US, after which they take the baby home and raise them as Korean/Japanese natives - all the while having the status of “natural born American.”
That’s correct. And the Koreans, the Japanese, and the Iranians even brag about it and laugh about it.
And laugh at us about it.
They even laugh at us on their TV shows about it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good going Dem and Rep Parties to give us such foolish and laughable laws. ...
I believe that the US is the ONLY country in the world that allows this no-common-sense law to be applied to foreign citizens making them native citizens, for just being birthed while on a VACATION trip to another country -— the only one of 222 countries to allow this! Amazing.
And then add in Ted Kennedy’s (D-Hell) 1965 “let the whole world except Europeans immigrate to the USA” immigration change in the law, and the 60% of LA that is now illegal third worlders ........ don’t believe me?
Hey mon take a trip to LA and see for yourself.
McCain’s real birth certificate, the long form, hasbeen shown to us — it’s posted on the internet — dcotr’s signatures, name of hospital, the whole shebang.
There’s no such thing as a “birther” - desparaging term made up by the left —
there are simply people who dare to ask questions, and to continue ask when the questions re,ain unanswered.
“Yesterday, Public Policy Polling released results of a poll showing that 42 percent of Republicans nationwide do not believe Barack Obama was born in the United States.”
It has yet to be proven one way or the other.
And who adhere to weird conspiracy theories; you forgot that part.
Thus Obama, no matter where he was born, cannot be a natural born citizen of the U.S. No other reason necessary.
Yes he is.
He was born in a hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, not on the base.
Not true. He was born on the base.
You have probably been misled by a fake McCain birth certificate floating around the internet from a hospital in Colon. Birth announcements in the military papers confirm he was born on the base.
I think in order to fulfill the requirements of natural born citizen to be president of the united States you must be born to two American citizens at the time of your birth, meaning it doesn’t count if they later became citizens.
You are incorrect. See the SCOTUS case US v. Kim Wong Ark.
And of course you can point to the clause in the Constitution or the federal law which supports that?
"Children born on foreign military bases are natural-born citizen because their parents tend to be U.S. citizens. No other reason" [post #50]
Are you now going to back away from your "proverbial" wisdom??? Again???
seems i recall a post here that showed McCain wasn’t born on post.
No because once again you have managed to stumble to the conclusion that that is the only definition of natural born citizen. How you do that passes all logic.
It was your conclusion that I stumbled over.
that that is the only definition of natural born citizen.
So then you admit that that is a definition of nbc, and yet all along you have been denying it. You're too much.
How you do that passes all logic.
It's your "logic".
Perhaps then you can tell us all out here the source of your "proverbial" wisdom in post #50???? According to your own words, Obama cannot be a natural born citizen because his parents were not U.S. citizens.
It is A definition, and please point out where I've denied it.
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