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Redefining Sarah Palin
American Thinker ^ | 9-28-09 | James Lewis

Posted on 09/27/2009 10:56:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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1 posted on 09/27/2009 10:56:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

While much of the article is good, Ahmadinejad and Khameini won’t be the first whackos to have nukes. Ahmadinejad probably won’t even be Preisdent as his 2nd term will end before Iran has a real nuclear arsenal.

Guys much worse or certainly as bad have had nukes. I mean, Mao had nukes and he Ahmadinejad has nothing on him. Google “The Great Leap Forward”, “Hundred Flowers” and “Cultural Revolution”. Mao was a killer of the first order who’s death totals would make even Hitler blush. He was surpassed in the 20th century possibly only by Stalin, who also had nukes. As did Khruschev who famously banged his show and said “we will bury you”.

So, Iran getting nukes will not be worse than others who have had them. We were very lucky they never used them, but the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the entire Cold War, the Cuban crisis, Castro, Pol Pot, etc... all of that happened because of the communist nuclear umbrella so ther is much to fear from a nuclear Iran


2 posted on 09/27/2009 11:02:28 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
So, Iran getting nukes will not be worse than others who have had them.

Try selling that BS to Israel.

3 posted on 09/27/2009 11:07:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Sorry...don’t even need to read the article...

GO Sarah!! heh...


4 posted on 09/27/2009 11:12:20 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: jeltz25
Mao had nukes...

So did Stalin and Kruschev...

Yes they did, but they were not believers in a fatalistic doomsday cult wherein the only hope for salvation was to bring on the end of the world.

Ahmadinejad is dangerous. Nukes make would him more so.
5 posted on 09/27/2009 11:22:16 PM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy - with solutions based on Lies. (Think Green!))
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To: smoothsailing

I didn’t say it wouldn’t be as bad, but I don’t think it would be worse.

Iran has had chem weapons and long range missiles for years and hasn’t launched them at Tel Aviv. I don’t think they’d be sending nukes that way either.

But, they would likely hold up the nukes as their ultimate trump card and just have Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorists step up attacks secure in the knowledge that Iran’s nuclear umbrella protects them from any serious reprisal. A Hamas backed by a nuclear armed Iran in Gaza and the West Bank(and possibly Fatah in the West Bank would ally with Iran as well) and a Hezbollah backed by a uclear armed Iran in Lebanon would be very dangerous.

They’d use them to give themselves leeway to conduct a way more agressive foreign policy and to dominate the Gulf. Gain sway over Iraq, Syria and the Gulf States.

My only point was that the writer was making it seem like a nuclear Iran would be the worst thing ever and my point was that a nuclear armed Mao and Stalin were pretty bad, too.


6 posted on 09/27/2009 11:25:13 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25; smoothsailing
Guys much worse or certainly as bad have had nukes. I mean, Mao had nukes and he Ahmadinejad has nothing on him. Google “The Great Leap Forward”, “Hundred Flowers” and “Cultural Revolution”. Mao was a killer of the first order who’s death totals would make even Hitler blush. He was surpassed in the 20th century possibly only by Stalin, who also had nukes. As did Khruschev who famously banged his show and said “we will bury you”.

You are totally wrong in your assessment and you took what he said out of context, the part you left out was,"The williness to use them".

In fact Imanutjob WANTS to use them and if you think he won't be elected again, he used voter fraud this time, I am sure he will use it again.

Muslims will use Nukes, the Chinese won't unless attacked, ditto the old USSR. Muslims don't care about MADD, the Chinese and the Russians do, in fact all other nuke armed nations do. Muslims WANT start a nuclear war, they want to blow Israel off the map, they don't care how many of them die to do it.

19 Muslims died just to blow up the World Trade Center, part of the Pentagon and an empty field(not their intended target). Suicide bombers too numerous to count have killed themselves for Allah and the Koran. Thousands have died in attacks against American troops they knew they couldn't win and ditto for when the Russians were in Afghanistan. Yet, somehow you think China and Russia are worse than this insane SOB that can't wait to set off a Nuke, amazing.

7 posted on 09/27/2009 11:25:25 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: jeltz25

The point of the article, other than recognizing the presidential potential of Sarah Palin, was the weakness of Obama. The combination of a weak U.S. President with growing ambitions and power elsewhere is what makes the situation perilous.


8 posted on 09/27/2009 11:37:20 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: jeltz25
When Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse Tung acquired nuclear weapons, the United States was already in possession of far more and stronger weapons with better delivery systems. Also, neither Stalin nor Mao were suicidal. The Iranians, on the other hand, are members of a cult that glorifies martyrdom. Therein lies the difference.
9 posted on 09/27/2009 11:42:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: jeltz25

Stalin and Mao and Krushchev were rational men, not into the idea that suicide of their own countries was worth destroyng the West. Ahmadinejad has presented the face of a religious fanatic in a religion whose holy book and commentaries glorify death if it is in the cause of killing incidels.Wiping out Jerusalem or New York would be just dandy for someone of that mindset if it meant his entire society being obliterated n return. But that is not necessarily the choice for A’jad. There is the ooption of EMP fired from freighters near our coasts and Hussein has shut down the airborne laser development that was close to deployability and could have protected from that eventuality.


10 posted on 09/28/2009 12:05:14 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: smoothsailing

It is a crimw that the POTUS is a weak yellow bellied coward.


11 posted on 09/28/2009 12:13:49 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: smoothsailing

Wow..Great article on Sarah Palin, i agree completely that she is a natural for the Presidency in 2012-if the Republicans don’t nominate a frozen Neanderthal from 2 million BC that they dug up...The foreigner sitting in the WH right now won’t even be a factor in 2012 as Iran will have tried to bomb Israel way before then- i believe it will be in a matter of months, not years...

O has given up the ship and thrown away the life vests and lifeboats and practically given a green light to Achoonutjob. Israel will have to go it alone but she can get the job done..The American voters will take care of the foreigner and the Dimrats in 2010 and 2012...


12 posted on 09/28/2009 12:27:11 AM PDT by billmor (As another Freeper said- the lines are drawn, choose your side !)
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To: smoothsailing

Palin is using the web just as Reagan used radio and TV, to get around the murderous filter of the media.

The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.

13 posted on 09/28/2009 12:31:22 AM PDT by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: smoothsailing
A barnstorming speech.

"I am a Commonsense Conservative...." will be the measure in 2010 and 2012,

Well done Governor Palin, well done!!!

14 posted on 09/28/2009 12:45:12 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat)
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To: Robert Drobot

Go, Sarah!!!!


15 posted on 09/28/2009 1:38:11 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: smoothsailing

I guess what he might’ve meant is Iran getting nukes will not be worse for the US than others who have had them.


16 posted on 09/28/2009 1:39:55 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: smoothsailing

What she offers as "an excerpt" I estimated at five thousand words, and it does in fact count at 4617.

She finishes with a statement from her essence, speaking of when America comes roaring back to life, and "why shouldn't we; we're Americans".

She covers the necessary history and geography.

An overlooked point is that the fall of the Wall, the end of the Cold War was thought by some to be the end of history--it was not.

It was thought to be the end of conflict, of war, of nation states--it was not.

It was seen by China as cause for rigidity and repression--that she sees this in China while Obama can only gush effusively (and naively) over the Potemkin Olympic production speaks worlds.

I give her top marks for noting only Gates must tighten his belt; the stimulus gives not even half a percent to defense.

She cites the cut in the F-22, the C-17, the missile defense as counter to what we must do.

She has a masterful phrase and concept in hard and soft power; Obama the metro leg-shaver wouldn't know hard power if it executed a coup in Maryland and Virginia during his Wednesday night Karaoke Bash.

She is very wise to see the need of India and Japan as countervailing power to that of China.

She is very solidly conservative to harp on the spending of Obama, the debt, the deficit, the taxing, rinse, repeat.

She is a realist in recognizing the challenge of China.

She is also realistic in her assessment of Afghanistan and the need for the same surge now to prevent its reversion to the Al Qaeda haven it was for 911.

And she got this out there ahead of Condi Rice, and in stark contrast to Obama's fake-o mimicry of Hamlet on this vital issue.

The American Thinker author says the GOP is starved for charisma.

I don't think we want charisma.

I think we want Sarah.

Mitt and Barack can debate how many health care perogatives can fit on the head of a pin.

Sarah can keep Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong Il from blowing up the world while creating the tax cuts and deregulation to get us roaring back.


17 posted on 09/28/2009 1:46:12 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

bttt


18 posted on 09/28/2009 2:22:32 AM PDT by jla
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To: calex59

You forgot to mention the sacrifice of over one million children by the Iranians in the Iran Iraq war used as mine sweepers or to launch suicide attacks against Iraqi positions with the object of making the Iraqis expend all their ammunition so the real soldiers could then overrun them. That alone tells me all I need to know about the Iranian willingness to martyr themselves.


19 posted on 09/28/2009 3:41:10 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: jeltz25

I don’t think Ahmadinejad and Khameini have any intention of waiting until they have a real nuclear arsenal. They are religious fanatics dedicated to furthering their vision of Islam and believe that anything they do has divine sanction.

Once they get a working bomb, they will use it.


20 posted on 09/28/2009 3:54:34 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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