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To: smoothsailing

While much of the article is good, Ahmadinejad and Khameini won’t be the first whackos to have nukes. Ahmadinejad probably won’t even be Preisdent as his 2nd term will end before Iran has a real nuclear arsenal.

Guys much worse or certainly as bad have had nukes. I mean, Mao had nukes and he Ahmadinejad has nothing on him. Google “The Great Leap Forward”, “Hundred Flowers” and “Cultural Revolution”. Mao was a killer of the first order who’s death totals would make even Hitler blush. He was surpassed in the 20th century possibly only by Stalin, who also had nukes. As did Khruschev who famously banged his show and said “we will bury you”.

So, Iran getting nukes will not be worse than others who have had them. We were very lucky they never used them, but the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the entire Cold War, the Cuban crisis, Castro, Pol Pot, etc... all of that happened because of the communist nuclear umbrella so ther is much to fear from a nuclear Iran


2 posted on 09/27/2009 11:02:28 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
So, Iran getting nukes will not be worse than others who have had them.

Try selling that BS to Israel.

3 posted on 09/27/2009 11:07:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jeltz25
Mao had nukes...

So did Stalin and Kruschev...

Yes they did, but they were not believers in a fatalistic doomsday cult wherein the only hope for salvation was to bring on the end of the world.

Ahmadinejad is dangerous. Nukes make would him more so.
5 posted on 09/27/2009 11:22:16 PM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy - with solutions based on Lies. (Think Green!))
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To: jeltz25; smoothsailing
Guys much worse or certainly as bad have had nukes. I mean, Mao had nukes and he Ahmadinejad has nothing on him. Google “The Great Leap Forward”, “Hundred Flowers” and “Cultural Revolution”. Mao was a killer of the first order who’s death totals would make even Hitler blush. He was surpassed in the 20th century possibly only by Stalin, who also had nukes. As did Khruschev who famously banged his show and said “we will bury you”.

You are totally wrong in your assessment and you took what he said out of context, the part you left out was,"The williness to use them".

In fact Imanutjob WANTS to use them and if you think he won't be elected again, he used voter fraud this time, I am sure he will use it again.

Muslims will use Nukes, the Chinese won't unless attacked, ditto the old USSR. Muslims don't care about MADD, the Chinese and the Russians do, in fact all other nuke armed nations do. Muslims WANT start a nuclear war, they want to blow Israel off the map, they don't care how many of them die to do it.

19 Muslims died just to blow up the World Trade Center, part of the Pentagon and an empty field(not their intended target). Suicide bombers too numerous to count have killed themselves for Allah and the Koran. Thousands have died in attacks against American troops they knew they couldn't win and ditto for when the Russians were in Afghanistan. Yet, somehow you think China and Russia are worse than this insane SOB that can't wait to set off a Nuke, amazing.

7 posted on 09/27/2009 11:25:25 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: jeltz25
When Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse Tung acquired nuclear weapons, the United States was already in possession of far more and stronger weapons with better delivery systems. Also, neither Stalin nor Mao were suicidal. The Iranians, on the other hand, are members of a cult that glorifies martyrdom. Therein lies the difference.
9 posted on 09/27/2009 11:42:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: jeltz25

Stalin and Mao and Krushchev were rational men, not into the idea that suicide of their own countries was worth destroyng the West. Ahmadinejad has presented the face of a religious fanatic in a religion whose holy book and commentaries glorify death if it is in the cause of killing incidels.Wiping out Jerusalem or New York would be just dandy for someone of that mindset if it meant his entire society being obliterated n return. But that is not necessarily the choice for A’jad. There is the ooption of EMP fired from freighters near our coasts and Hussein has shut down the airborne laser development that was close to deployability and could have protected from that eventuality.


10 posted on 09/28/2009 12:05:14 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: jeltz25

I don’t think Ahmadinejad and Khameini have any intention of waiting until they have a real nuclear arsenal. They are religious fanatics dedicated to furthering their vision of Islam and believe that anything they do has divine sanction.

Once they get a working bomb, they will use it.


20 posted on 09/28/2009 3:54:34 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: jeltz25

Iran is the first nuclear nation who believes, with all of their collective heart, that they are destined to wipe another country off of the face of the Earth.

Not simply to defeat, but to annihilate.

If that difference doesn’t strike home, I suppose one must not be paying attention.


28 posted on 09/28/2009 8:33:37 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: jeltz25
I mean, Mao had nukes and he Ahmadinejad has nothing on him

Mao was not a religious fanatic who believed he could bring forth a promised "12th Imam" by causing as much mayhem as possible. Mao also did not have a foreign enemy whom he was willing to sacrifice his own country to defeat.

That's why MAD worked against communists: they were materialists who valued their own hind-ends above all else.

The "Twelver Shias" who run Iran are not; they're motivated by a 6th century cultic religion that teaches them to die for their god.

Imagine Imperial Japan with nuclear missiles and you're getting closer to what we're facing in Iran.

29 posted on 09/28/2009 10:29:07 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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