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To: Nachum

I’ve read some conspiracy-theorists suggesting that McVeigh was a patsy/fall-guy and who suggested he was framed.

From the article: An FOIA request by Trentadue for 26 CIA documents was rejected in June. A letter from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which reviewed the documents, said their release “could cause grave damage to our national security.”

The above certainly does merit some questioning. How can information on a DOMESTIC bombing carried out years ago by a DOMESTIC terrorist, without FOREIGN involvement impact “National Security”?

If it is a still-exploitable security-defect, then people should be losing their jobs and going to jail, if not executed for treason.

The only thing, I can think of that would involve “National Security” would be if the missing information proved that the government incorrectly tried, convicted, & executed an innocent man or that the government was actually involved in the killing of the Citizens there. That is, if the Government did something that would cause a “loss of face” or, “undermine” the legitimacy of its authority; for it is this ‘authority’ which would become null & void should the government be killing its Citizens. (Are you beholden to a madman who WILL kill you or do you bodily harm? Surly not!)


10 posted on 09/27/2009 3:54:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

The owner of a motel tied McVeigh and Nichols to his motel at the very same time that Atta and Moussouri were there and they were seen together, BUT FBI was not interested.

Just like the number of people that saw a Middle Eastern man with McVeigh but FBI was not interested.

But then the same FBI said they found a suicide note three weeks later on the computer hard drive of the OU “lone suicide bomber” after the NPD blew up 18 loads of explosives that rattled my home and windows 5 miles away from the site. Same material that was taken from the suicide bomber’s car and apartment. But he wasn’t a terrorist.

My opinion of the FBI is not too great and frankly not surprised the tapes have been edited. In fact, I would have said that before I knew.

Why settle Iraqi Republican Guard in OKC after the first Gulf war?

I have a lot of questions with no answers. Murrah Bombing was a cover up but then so was the OU ‘lone suicide bomber’ and would bet many other happenings.


28 posted on 09/27/2009 4:54:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: OneWingedShark
I’ve read some conspiracy-theorists suggesting that McVeigh was a patsy/fall-guy and who suggested he was framed.

I have wondered. I mean, If I had blown up a building full of men, women, and children, and got pulled over by a cop while driving with no license plates, with a 9mm loaded in reach, a highway patrollman just might end their career on the spot. What is one more? Drive away and ditch the vehicle.

It is as if McVeigh wanted to be caught. Maybe he figured he'd walk, not take the fall.

The only thing, I can think of that would involve “National Security” would be if the missing information proved that the government incorrectly tried, convicted, & executed an innocent man or that the government was actually involved in the killing of the Citizens there. That is, if the Government did something that would cause a “loss of face” or, “undermine” the legitimacy of its authority; for it is this ‘authority’ which would become null & void should the government be killing its Citizens.

The Clinton administration made political hay out of the idea that a "right winged radical" murdered over a hundred people, allegedly in retribution for Waco.

The Waco massacre was due to be investigated in congressional hearings, gunowners were gaining momentum fighting the assault weapons ban, and progress was being made in the Randy Weaver/Ruby Ridge case as well.

The shift in public sentiment that came with the attribution of the OK City bombing to what has become the cliche carriacture of 'right winged, Constitution quoting, radical gun nuts (who love Jesus)', took a lot of the wind out of the sails of the anti-Clinton, anti-DOJ under Janet Reno outcry, and did, in the public psyche, more than counterbalence the horrors which the government had committed in Texas, Idaho, and elsewhere.

With the WTC Bombing in '93, and other terrorist events which had been attributed to foreign (islamic) terrorists, and leaking information that the WTC Bombing may have been a blown sting operation (iirc, the on board informant showed them how to make the explosive), the Clintons had everything to gain by denying foreign involvement and blaming factions on the Right.

44 posted on 09/27/2009 6:05:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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