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Suspected flag burner pilloried
timesunion.com ^ | Sept. 26, 2009 | BOB GARDINIER AND HUMBERTO MARTÍNEZ

Posted on 09/26/2009 10:12:55 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

VALLEY FALLS -- The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.

"He'll never disrespect the flag again, I can tell you that," Normile said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fightingwords; flagburning; happyending; traitor; vietnamvets
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To: Free ThinkerNY; freekitty; No Surrender No Retreat; 2ndDivisionVet; blackbart.223; celtic gal; ...

We The People are fed up!

Hey, RATs and RINOs, We The People Are Coming in 2010 and 2012; that’s a vow.

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121 posted on 09/26/2009 1:24:39 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: stormer
Vandalism doesn't warrant unlawful imprisonment, kidnapping, or assault and battery.

You are wrong. Please read the article.

There was no "unlawful imprisonment" since the offender made a free choice to be tied to a flag pole.

There was no "kidnapping" since the offender made a free choice to be tied to a flag pole.

There was no "assault and battery" since the offender willingly submitted to being tied to the flag pole.

All that happened was two individuals came to an amicable resolution to a private dispute over the destruction of private property.

Thank you for playing. Please try again later.

122 posted on 09/26/2009 1:32:05 PM PDT by been_lurking
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To: Eaker
Do they make pillories for pencil necks like Obama?

In that case you want to look at the Model 400M:


123 posted on 09/26/2009 1:32:38 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: stormer
“...after he was hunted down...” That doesn't bother you?

Explain what laws were broken, other than the destruction of private property by the offender?

Finding the offender is not a violation of any law that I know.

124 posted on 09/26/2009 1:35:31 PM PDT by been_lurking
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To: Melas

Well, they did give him the chance to turn himself into the police. After all, the flag burner destroyed property that didn’t belong to him.

I’ve read of judges offering sentencing options not too dissimilar to this case.

Had they just pilloried him, I would have had a problem with it. Instead, the perpetrator made a free choice.


125 posted on 09/26/2009 1:37:35 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: been_lurking

Please don’t tell me you’re that dense. Are you saying that the agreement between a drug dealer and a junkie or between a prostitute and a john represent an “amicable resolution”? Not only is this an invalid contract, one cannot legally submit to be the victim of a crime. Thanks for playing yourself. But please, don’t try again later.


126 posted on 09/26/2009 1:45:12 PM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
Let me get this straight; you were writing down license plates and giving them to the police because you disagreed with their sentiment? Thank you, comrade patriot.

I didn't personally, but I sure as hell thought it was hilarious that a couple of my friends did.

Are you calling me a Communist?

127 posted on 09/26/2009 1:47:01 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: stormer

That doesn’t bother you?


his choice


128 posted on 09/26/2009 1:58:16 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (bigger government = smaller people)
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To: Allegra

Not at all, I just always kind of liked that whole ‘freedom of speech’ thing. Now if you buddies had gone through the parking lot and written down all of the plates that were expired, that would be one thing. But to select them based on what somebody has on a bumper sticker is what I’d call chickenshit.


129 posted on 09/26/2009 1:58:59 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Allegra

Thanks for the ping. Yes, I remember the event very fondly as well. It was a sight to see at the time. Thanks everyone for the event and the support.


130 posted on 09/26/2009 2:00:35 PM PDT by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns, Guts and Garden and OBTW, Obama LIES.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Agree


131 posted on 09/26/2009 2:03:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dr_who

I merely asked a question. It was a crime that he burned someone else’s property. Lower your blood pressure.


132 posted on 09/26/2009 2:07:34 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: dr_who
Get lost, loser.

Look who's calling a real patriot a loser. You my friend are just so full of it. You shouldn't wear you feelings on your short sleeves.

133 posted on 09/26/2009 2:08:05 PM PDT by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns, Guts and Garden and OBTW, Obama LIES.)
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To: Lady Jag
Perfect!



134 posted on 09/26/2009 2:09:01 PM PDT by Eaker (Kaiden sez, "If you have a problem and If explosives are an option then explosives are THE answer.")
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To: stormer
With all due respect, I don't think anyone cared what your opinion of them was that day.

Hey, the hippies let their registrations and inspections expire and it was there for all to see. And plastering their vans and cars with all of the liberal stickers draws attentions to them.

I guess sometimes, it's not the kind of attention they want.

They should have thought something like that just might happen at an inflammatory event like an anti-war protest in the climate of the day.

135 posted on 09/26/2009 2:09:17 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Ron H.
Yes, I remember the event very fondly as well. It was a sight to see at the time. Thanks everyone for the event and the support.

That is a very fond memory and you were great with your Terrorist Hunting License sign. The way things are going, we may have to get out there again.

I'm coming home soon...for a little while. :)

136 posted on 09/26/2009 2:11:33 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Ron H.

I could buy your patriotism for two bucks.


137 posted on 09/26/2009 2:14:56 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: dr_who
“I don’t think you get it. Self-righteousness over a $40 flag, probably made in China, is not a sane reason to get into fisticuffs with anybody.”

You're the one who doesn't “get it”. This didn't happen in a vacuum. There is a damn good chance the guys involved felt the law would dismiss them and their concerns in this matter.

For 50 year's now the law has been made more and more abstract from the community it serves by people who have an agenda. The same people who would dismiss the inherent offensiveness of the act in question (and reduce it to a counting of dollars and cents and then JUST DISMISS IT ANYWAY) would lose their minds in OUTRAGE and throw the book at the perp if he had, say, called someone a “nigger” or a “faggot”. We live in an upside down world where a mean, angry epithet, a mere WORD, a mere THOUGHT trumps actual damage in the matter of sentencing.

I applaud these guys and I applaud the perp for taking his medicine like a man.

As a popular humorist (who's name escapes me at the moment) pointed out: “George Washington and the fellas’ opened fire on other men over a 2 cent rise in the price of a breakfast drink”. One of the definitions of a ‘Man’ is that he KNOWS when to take his hands out of his pockets. It involves PRINCIPLE not “$40.00 dollars” or a billion dollars.

138 posted on 09/26/2009 2:16:03 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: dr_who; Eaker
Get lost, loser.

Just FYI, Eaker is no loser. Not by a long stretch.

You'll rarely meet a more patriotic American and decent, hardworking family man.

139 posted on 09/26/2009 2:16:19 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: dr_who; Ron H.
I could buy your patriotism for two bucks.

Don't count on it.

You clearly don't know the Houston FReeper group.

And Ron H is a veteran. Have some respect.

140 posted on 09/26/2009 2:18:40 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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