Posted on 09/25/2009 7:33:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Apparently so.
MORE GUN CONTROL: McCAIN-LIEBERMAN FR April '01
Let me note here that when you click on a link to older FR threads and you get a page with this "No such file (give_legacy_article)" that does not mean the thread is no longer there. If you click refresh repeatedly you will eventually get the thread to load. Don't give up, it has taken me as many as 20 refreshes to get some of these old threads to load.
That said; here is an excerpt from that article...
...like so many other "crime control" bills, the McCain- Lieberman bill is gun control, pure and simple. Here are just some of the bill's provisions which are designed to:
*Slam the door on sales at private gun shows unless the buyer submits to a registration background check.
*Force gun-owners to purchase trigger locks making their firearms useless for self-defense; and, even more troubling,
*Would encourage federal agents to arrest and convict honest gun-owners who may inadvertantly violate one of the many federal gun laws, many of which are mere technicalities but which carry severe penalties.
For example, a law-abiding citizen who innocently drives by a school with a gun in his car could find himself being sent to prison for violating the gun free school zone's provision of McCain''s bill.
Beck’s nothing special about this: Levin hates everybody. He’s a jerk.
Me too. They cut 30 doggone minutes of his show for that commie. My DVR is set to record GB when his show replays tonight. I am hoping that it will not be interrupted.
Can't hurt. Thanks! Good idea.
I generally steer clear of McCain’s POW issue. Not everyone does, and some people aren’t too happy with John concerning some aspects of his POW days, or his military service in general.
What I do object to is folks who act as if his military service is pristine, and question how anyone could raise an issue concerning it. I think his military service is a question mark.
I don’t think we’ll ever know the complete truth regarding his military service. There are some things that do trouble me considerably about it.
Perhaps the biggest question mark related to it is how John lived his life before and after active military service. He was dishonorable before it. He was dishonorable after it. How in the sam hell can I think that John was honorable during one period in his life, when all the indicators are that he was a jackass all the other times?
John is a political pig. He wallows in the leftist ideological mud and seems to like it. He always goes back for more.
He is a person I cannot respect. I think his values are incredibly askew. I believe he has done damage to this nation, and I think he would love to do a lot more.
Getting him out of office at the earliest (legal) opportunity is in the nation’s best interest.
I like Levin. I like Beck.
Give it rest Mark. Our side has been too nice. We need a fire brand who will tell it like it is. Glen is filling that role, and you need to recognize the value of it.
McCain has not been, is not now, and never will be middle of the road.
John is a leftist. He doesn’t get Conservatism and never will.
John is about twenty seven or so years overdue to be put out to pasture.
McTraitor is a FLAMING DEMOCRAT.
Fingers crossed. ;-)
Bump for later...
Where did you get Beck’s wanting a third party?
I have heard him discussing the risks of such voting idiocy. He even said that no, repeat, NO third party had won.
Just wondering if I had missed something.
Sure, he’ll grouse a little bit but he will take his marching orders in November no matter who the GOP runs. I’ll wager that he supported Graham against the Ron Paul Democrat who ran against him.
Well....Reagan called himself a liberatarian too. He didn’t even use the word “becoming.” Words are fine but don’t mean much until Beck sticks his neck out and supports libertarian positions on specific hot button issues such as drugs, police abuse of power, and the Patriot Act.
Maybe we can encourage them to run for office? If not nationally then locally. It’s a good start.
LOL Wanna bet?
Reagan called himself a conservative Republican. That obscure 1975 Reason Magazine Interview was a one time deal. Reagan used it as an opportunity to fish for a few votes. Nothing more, nothing less. Didn't help Reagan in the 1976 GOP primaries or the 1980 election either.
I'll take Beck at his word.
Reagan was never a small “l” libertarian or a member of the Libertarian Party.
Reagan started life as a liberal Democrat, found conservatism in the 1950`s, became a Republican in 1962 and died a conservative Republican in 2004!
My impression of KBH is that she’s passive, lacking energy, that she feels entitled to the statehouse but really doesn’t have the first idea what to do with it. She’s just a soft-voiced attractive blonde who is more DC than Dallas. And Sarah’s going to stump for Perry.
That’s a new one on me. I always thought the distinction went this way: a large L Libertarian is a supporter of the Libertarian Party. Neither Reagan nor Beck ever supported that group. A small l libertarian is someone who does not support the party.
You just contradicted yourself. You say you are willing to wager that Reagan did not apply the term to himself (my only claim) then you cited the Reason Magazine article in which he did. I never said that Reagan consistently used the term. Actually, I don’t think it was purely fishing for votes when he did. I suspect Reagan stopped using the term when he found out to his horror that libertarians supported legalization of drugs and prostitution.
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