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To: Wacka

[[This site is not a scientific reference. This is an opinion site.]]

[[The evolution side puts up scientific evidence all the time. ]]

for crying out loud Wacka- you can’t even form a coherent argument- first you claim this is nothign but an ‘opinion’ site- then you turn right aroudn and claim evolutionists present scientific evidnece’ Cripes- GGG presents scientific evidence ALL the time- there are MANY scientific articles presented here on FR which REFUTE macroevolution. the articles ARE scientific- but once again -you IGNORE the science , and simpyl attack those that respond to the scietnfitic article- per usual- you aren’t itnerested in ‘civil discussions’ you and your ilk are ONLY itnerested i nattackign the messengers and anyone that comments on the scientific articles- There are myriad articles on here discussing hte biological, chemical, natural, and mathematical impossibilities of Macroevolution- but you and your ilk REFUSE to even discuss them- preferrign instead to zero in on those who present hte scientific articles- As I said- either look htem up for yourself or shut up

[[A proud Catholic (that means Christian too).
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You’ve NEVER answerecd the question Wacka- Have you asked forgiveness for your sins and accepted Christ as your Savior for forgiveness of your sins? Or are you just putting your faith in ‘being a good catholic’ in the mistaken beleif that beign a member of a church wil lget you to heaven? Only htose who are born again wil lenter heaven as explaiend By Christ Himself- and the way to be born again is to bring your failing before the Lord Christ Hismelf, and askign Him to forgive you and to be your Lord and Savior- it’s a personal one on one meeting between you and the Lord- it’ws not soemthign you earn through ‘good works’ lest any man should boast!


163 posted on 09/25/2009 9:36:01 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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The Bible says:

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
-Romans 3:19-24 (NIV, emphasis added)


164 posted on 09/25/2009 9:44:14 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

First, I get forgiveness when I go to confession and I don’t have to accept Christ as my savior again because I did that as remaining a Catholic after my baptism as an infant.

Who put the bible down in writing? The RC Church.

Who was the first pope? Peter, Christ’s disciple.

I don’t have to be “born again”. I was born once and that’s all I need to go to heaven.

I believe that all the Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, animists, Wiccans, etc, and even atheists that live good lives will go to heaven. They will find that their view was incorrect, but they will be there.

Believe what you want, but don’t force other people.
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Now onto science:

What GGG and his group post here is religion masquerading as science. Put his threads in the religion forum (where there are a lot of threads with discussion of the Roman Catholic religion), and we wouldn’t be on here.
I’m talking about using this site as a reference in an argument. It is NOT a valid scientific reference.

GGG posts creationist MAGAZINE ARTICLES, not a reviewed journal where original experiments are done, reported in detail with results and conclusions are drawn from the data presented. What he posts are usually incorrect reviews of real journal articles with opinions sometimes used as references, with a paragraph tacked on the end that god did it (with no proof that he did).

On the few times he does actually cite real articles (his favorite seems to be Project Encode related papers) he lacks the education in the field (which he admits) to correctly understand the papers.

Again I ask, your side asked for a civil debate. It is up to you (your side) to show your scientific evidence first. We are waiting.


167 posted on 09/25/2009 12:44:21 PM PDT by Wacka
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