[Las Vegas Ron]

Indeed, one of the reasons I've been lurking more rather then posting lately is it seems all has been said that needs to be said, they're not listening so now what?

Another good quote from Jefferson, though not exactly in line with what we're discussing, is still relevant.

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

I dunno, it's going to be interesting...

[stockpirate]

I also like this one, “People who beat their guns into plows will plow for those who don’t.”