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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I suggest that you read a history of the 1917 and 1918 flu epidemic.

Personally, if there is ever a flu similar to 1917, our family will get vaccinated and ( in addition) we will not leave the house, or allow any visitors, until the epidemic is over.

11 posted on 09/22/2009 8:54:46 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

Much has changed since 1917/18....we take Vit D3.....we will NOT be vaccinated.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 8:56:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrat party has always been the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism and surrender)
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To: wintertime

I have studied them extensively.

Does prior history, though, allow unconsitutional law to be enacted now and potentially forced upon adults and even children?


17 posted on 09/22/2009 8:59:08 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: wintertime
“I suggest that you read a history of the 1917 and 1918 flu epidemic.”

Way overblown, no one in either mine or my wife's families got the flu in 1918. That's over 60 people.

19 posted on 09/22/2009 9:02:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: wintertime

I don’t dispute your reading of the 1917/18 flu epidemic. However, I suggest you read a history of the 1970s vaccination program that killed more people than the actual flu it was meant to prevent.

The current strain is being overblown by the media and those attempting grasp for even more power (read as don’t let a good crisis go to waste) - it is no more virulent then the annual common flu strains when looking at the mortality %s involved and rushing a vaccine that has not been proven will only create another 70’s scenario.


38 posted on 09/22/2009 9:20:10 PM PDT by reed13 (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: wintertime

Thousands upon thousands died in 1917 even though they followed your same proposed isolation plan (except for getting the flu shot. They died because they caught the flu just by handeling the mail that they received from the outside world! That flu was insideous and this one has the same potential if things fall into place and it mutates.


41 posted on 09/22/2009 9:30:57 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Thank you)
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To: wintertime
I suggest you read up on why there has never been an outbreak like that since. That was before penicillin and other medicines.

I suggest you read what the CDC - who are NOT in the politicians pockets like the FDA and the Pharmas - has to say about this years flu...and what 60% of the doctors and more nurses in Canada have to say -
I suggest you watch the 60 minutes documentary that Chris Wallace did - which was never repeated, as others are...just buried.

Particularly look at the last video - in Maine - Riot control practice in the event there are riots by people trying to get the shots. When did you EVER hear of such riots?

You want to take the shot. Have at it. That's your choice. Leave us to ours.

CDC
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu

Canada
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/24/doctors-refuse-swine-flu-vaccine

60 minutes expose part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro1WL5ketWg

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0aIoa97X5k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro1WL5ketWg

Then there's this in Maine - totally off the wall. There is something alarming taking place in this country.

http://informationliberation.com/?id=27120

Taken the culmination of things, one might conclude there are evil things afoot...for what purposes...

44 posted on 09/22/2009 9:31:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: wintertime
Really? Really? Read it? Oh aren't you clever. How about sitting across from someone who has told me the story plenty of times. Yeah, she is 99 and 4 months. I have heard it all and from her sister. There is no reason to take the shot. NONE. You are being scammed by the drug companies. Let's get some things real clear about some things. They have been indemnified by the government from any and all law suits. If their drug causes injury to you and your loved one, are you willing to forgo your right to sue for injury or death? You don't care? Oh! Hey it is your life, but you should know they have not done any trials to measure efficacy rates or percentaage of expected side effects or what those side effects will be. In fact, the swine flu is not new, as you know. However, are you are aware of the swine flu of 1976 and the complications from that little fiasco? Well more people came down with Gulliane Barr Syndrome than got sick with the swine flu. Hope it doesn't happen to you or your family but who knows. The drug companies have done no testing and you won't find out until afterward. Now check this. The drug companies are so smart and have done so much testing, They cannot figure out if you need 1 shot, 2 shots or 3 shots. Yep, at first they were saying a single dose will suffice. Well, since they are indemnified why not say "you may require a booster shot" to ensure the effectiveness. Now for the last three weeks they have been saying "You may require 3 shots". Why? Hell there is money in this and as far as the company is concerned it is free money. They cannot be sued and this is a zero/no risk opportunity for the executives and shareholders. Oh and if that weren't enough, there are so many doctors and Secretaries of Health saying in effect "The swine flu is not as virulent as first thought. In fact, the effects are milder than other strains of the flu and recovery seems to be quicker" sic I can't find the draft of anothe post with the quotes from authorities but when I do I will compile them into a new post. Finally,
I saw these this morning and it is a pointed reminder of what a scam the Swine Flu is.
 
It is not new and many people took vaccinations for it in the Mid 70's.  There were many who suffered terribly.
 
The Current scam for immunizaiton by the Drug Companies exempts them from lawsuit.
Why?  No human trials have been done to determine efficacy or mortality rates.
 
Watch the first video.  It is only 3 minutes long and will leave you informed about your plan and choices should this "Pandemic" actually appear.

Ten Things Your Not Supposed to know about the Swine Flu Vaccine (Operation Kill-Shot)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUEIls5Ncf0&feature=related

 
60 minutes - SWINE FLU VACCINE WARNING - Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcJt4jX1Vo
 
 
60 minutes - SWINE FLU VACCINE WARNING - Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4c9Is1T3z4&feature=related
I know you love your family but this thing is a scam. I spent 10 day in Mexico and it sucked having the entire country shut down but, believe me, I shook every hombres hand and hugged the Senoritas(cuz I like em') Know what? I know at least 100 people that live down there year round and the only thing any caught was fish. The flu can be can kill and good hygiene is your friend. But being force to take an injection against your will and indemnifying the producers? F That.
46 posted on 09/22/2009 9:34:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: wintertime

Well you go right ahead and take that vaccine. Mark my words, more will die from it than the flu. Hell will freeze over before I take it and they damn well better not come a knocking on my door.


52 posted on 09/22/2009 9:39:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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