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Tax By Any Other Name: Obama “Stretches” the Truth About Forcing People to Buy Insurance or be Fined
Flopping Aces ^ | 09-20-09 | Mike's America

Posted on 09/20/2009 5:31:21 PM PDT by Starman417

Joe Wilson were are you?

A Mike's America presentation: Obama Interview with George Stephanopolous of ABC News, aired September 20, 2009.

[VIDEO AT SITE]

Notice the bizzard of bloviation designed to distract from the main point that forcing people to buy insurance or fining them for not doing so fits the definition of a tax!

Even Bill Clinton couldn't lie that good!

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhohealthcare; demlies; liarinchief; obama; obamacare; obamathon; tax
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1 posted on 09/20/2009 5:31:21 PM PDT by Starman417
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I say fine me... i’ll go bankrupt fighting it in court.


2 posted on 09/20/2009 5:32:23 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Starman417

How will he get a wino living under a bridge to buy insurance? Fine him? What if he can’t pay the fine? Jail him? How many criminals will be released to make room for winos?


3 posted on 09/20/2009 5:35:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (That's reicest you dirty rat dog Reicest you! Reicest I say! I gonna cutchu boy!)
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To: Starman417

i heard the clip about “auto insurance.” i’m not insulting, only observing, when I say the logic is...twisted, and the level of intellect he presumes upon his audience speaks volumes about his own.


4 posted on 09/20/2009 5:37:18 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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To: Starman417

i heard the clip about “auto insurance.” i’m not insulting, only observing, when I say the logic is...twisted, and the level of intellect he presumes upon his audience speaks volumes about his own.


5 posted on 09/20/2009 5:40:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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Wow! He talked a lot, but said nothing. Reminds me of Deeds and his tax no-tax for transportation in Virginia.


6 posted on 09/20/2009 5:40:06 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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Its all okay. We will be getting a tax credit which will cover the cost of the insurance so its a wash. Except with all the new requirements imposed on private insurance they will have to raise their premiums. So the only insurance you will be able to afford with the tax credit will be the Tax Payer subsidized “Public Option Plan”.
7 posted on 09/20/2009 5:41:04 PM PDT by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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I want the FBI to do any future interviews with 0bama on TV. If Zer0 lies to them, they should arrest him.


8 posted on 09/20/2009 5:42:40 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Starman417

Nice story.

Now this POS is the determiner and ‘Trier of Fact” of what is good for individuals; only Dictators, Marxists, Fascists and the Demented believe such...since this POS is not a Dictator, does that make him a Fascist, Marxist or Demented, all of which are incompatible in America...


9 posted on 09/20/2009 6:04:45 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Starman417

Sorry to go a little off topic. I had not seen Stephanopolous in a few years, and I was struck by the change in his appearance. He has had some work, but I can’t put my finger on it. Something about the eyes.


10 posted on 09/20/2009 6:06:57 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

good point, what about the illegal aliens? suppose he gives amnesty to a certain amount by a certain date and those pple no longer are illegal. now, after that date you have more illegals —— are going to be fined? jailed??

like i said before if I were prez i’d turn that border into a freakin’ war zone and shoot to kill. Turn em’ back!! Stay out of our country!


11 posted on 09/20/2009 6:08:43 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("I never knew there were Martians in my garden...." J.Edgar Hoover,Fmr. Director, F.B.I.)
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He’s an idiot. If my car blows a head gasket does my insurance cover it? Car Insurance is meant to protect the other driver. He’s an idiot


12 posted on 09/20/2009 6:08:59 PM PDT by eyedigress
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What I find odd, after reading about 2/3 of HR 3200 is where this bill GIVES anyone ANYTHING. It really does this:

1. Regulates and defines insurance policies to the point that all policies are roughly equal.

2. Mandates all people by an insurance policy. Either from an approved private provider or a “Government issued policy”.

3. Alters the IRS code to include health insurance compliance enforcement.

So, when it’s MANDATED you buy it, and MANDATED you verify it as part of you Federal TAX filing - what kind of tard can seriously argue that it’s not a tax ?


13 posted on 09/20/2009 6:17:39 PM PDT by crescen7 (game on)
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“if you don’t like it... then leave.”

ok, please... someone show me how i can leave without having to continue paying these commies to destroy my country?

being one of the evil 5%, otherwise known as the group paying 90% of ALL taxes... i am one of those responsible for enabling these commie bastards. and since they won’t listen to what we say, the only option left is defunding their efforts.

thoughts / suggestions?


14 posted on 09/20/2009 6:31:17 PM PDT by sten
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To: eyedigress
He’s an idiot. If my car blows a head gasket does my insurance cover it? Car Insurance is meant to protect the other driver. He’s an idiot

And besides, even if the insurance analogy WERE apt, you can self insure if you have the money to do so. The people who are presently doing that with health care are the ones he wants to fine.

15 posted on 09/20/2009 7:45:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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“if you don’t like it... then leave.”

Since there's far more foreign countries with systems he would be comfortable with, than ones WE would like, wouldn't it be simpler for HIM to leave?

16 posted on 09/20/2009 7:46:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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Here is where Obama is relying on the inattention of the citizenry.

The insurance which is required by the states is liability insurance for damage done to others, not insurance for ones self. That is completely optional.

17 posted on 09/20/2009 7:50:43 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (I may not be John Galt or Jim Thompson, but I AM THE MOB!)
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To: Still Thinking

actually... it’s more like 40-50% of the US in favor of socialistic systems.

i’d just like to be able to live in the bahamas or the isle of man without having to pay 50-65% US fed tax in order for the illegals to get an education, healthcare, and various services... while also giving hundreds of thousands to the mortgages of 0bama supporters.

it just makes me physically ill to think that i have to work 5.5 out of every 8 hours so some slack-ass crackhead can get a free cell phone, free mortgage payments while out of work, and free car payments... all on my labor


18 posted on 09/20/2009 10:36:34 PM PDT by sten
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obambi says IF, your paying your premiums, your actually gonna have coverage when you get sick. And if not.....?


19 posted on 09/20/2009 10:39:00 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: crescen7

Where is the option, public or otherwise in this setup.

If you MUST have health insurance, how can there be anything “optional” about it?


20 posted on 09/20/2009 10:49:24 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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