[PapaBear3625]

Here's my bottom line: anybody who is in favor of increased government power and/or increased government social-welfare spending, is not a conservative to me, "neo" or otherwise.

I prefer to think of myself as a "small-l" libertarian, who believes that the proper role of government is to provide a safe and orderly environment for people to live, work, and raise a family, provide a venue to settle disputes, and otherwise stay out of people's hair.

[vimto]

Yes, and so (now) do I. Classic liberalism has a long and honorable tradition, but sadly lost in the UK with Margaret thatcher the last proponent of it. Even she had difficulty reigning in the growth of the government.

And believe me in the UK I'm waaaaay off the political spectrum.

But the journey had to start somewhere and for me it was most certainly with the neo-cons - and they sounded pretty radical to European ears. Yet they were only a station on the way. Once you get freedom between your teeth you have to take it to the wire.

I know know how socialistic the UK is and I feel disenfranchised. UKIP is our only hope... our conservative party would be in your democratic party.

Respect and regards