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To: allmendream

And how are scientists not geocentrists when they talk about sunrise and sunset? What about the celestial sphere that astronomers constantly refer to? Don't tell me that they actually believe that we are in the center of a sphere that the stars are all fixed to.

Anything in Scripture that is written as a narrative account is rightly read that way. Jesus Himself referred to the creation account, the creation of Adam and Eve, and the Flood as actual events.

Did He lie and misrepresent those events as fact instead of allegory to those who heard Him? Or was He telling the truth?

Sure it is. It is putting Scripture subservient to man's interpretation of data as observed from man's perspective, which is only one limited point of view.

Is the Pope, who said evolution was “a fact that enriches our understanding of life and being and such” also only “claiming” to be a Christian?

Are you saying that the Pope is infallible? And what if a different Pope make a different statement? Then who's right?

658 posted on 09/23/2009 3:28:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Way to miss the point metmom.

Our Geocentric Creationist Freepers have it in their head that “and HE set the foundations of the Earth so that they should not be move forever” and other scriptures necessitates a geocentric model. According to them you are “cherry picking” what scriptures to believe in just as much as I or Benedict XVI is; unless you agree with their particular scriptural interpretation.

And the supposed ‘infallibility’ of the Pope on matters of faith is completely irrelevant to the question.

The construction you seem so enamored of is that if one accepts evolution that they are only “claiming” to be Christian and somehow also reject the notion of God's miraculous involvement with the world.

Seeings as how Pope Benedict XVI said evolution was a “fact which enriches our understanding of life and being and such” do you think he too is only “claiming” to be a Christian or that he rejects Gods miracles?

It matters not at all that he is the Pope except to illustrate the absurdity of your argument. If another were selected and he said it as Karl Ratzinger, would you assume that “Karl” was only “claiming” to be a Christian, and would you think that he also rejected the virgin birth or the resurrection of Jesus the Christ?

660 posted on 09/23/2009 3:49:48 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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