Posted on 09/18/2009 8:31:38 AM PDT by BellStar
President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.
He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered - a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
The president said: "There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms -- the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."
Joe Wilson said, "You Lie!"
Turns out the president does lie. Those who are here illegally will be "legalized" prior to the bill going into effect, so, yes, his health care reforms WILL apply to those who are here (now) illegally.
“The goal: to put tens of millions of new Democrat voters on the rolls. ....legally, this time. It’s the Dems’ only chance at keeping their congressional majority in ‘10. ...and Hussein’s only chance at re-election.”
BINGO!
FOOD FOR THOUGHT....
I had an occasion to revisit this thread:
What does AMNESTY look like?
Someone who can post a picture should post the map in post #41, it’s striking to see. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1840655/posts
We had determined that 20 million illegal aliens was the population, used the infrastructure of 17... SEVENTEEEEEN....of our states. But it’s NOT 20 million....it’s 20 million PLUS their anchor babies......We’ve replaced how many states because of illegal immigration counting their offspring who are obviously here as well....???? Just using the 20 million figure doesn’t even touch the total # of people new, poor, needy here because of illegal immigration....We’re talking 50-60 million extra people...voters, more anchor babies to continue the narcoterror.
Like this one: Body with severed arms in Mexico ID’d as Texas man http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2338819/posts
When the illegal immigrants get citizenship, would it not pay us to go where they came from?
Old Nan is about ready for the bone yard anyway.
Mexico's healthcare: quality and access vary dramatically depending on the Mexican state. Mexico spends 6.2% of its GDP on health care, about $97B, compared to 16% of GDP spent in the US.....works out to $527 per person a year compared to 7,290 in the US. There is one doctor to every 500 people in Mexico compared to one to 416 in the US. Just under 1/2 of Mexicans are expected to be covered under the "people’s insurance plan" put in place in 2004. An employer based system currently serves 40% of the population that makes up the working class. Less than 5% pay for private health care. 1/5 of Mexicans, the poorest, are exempt from paying for health insurance. After that one pays according to income. State and federal governments also contribute. Govt workers have their own plan.
RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, he files an Income Tax Return to get an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps, free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches.. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills. > Their kids qualify for monthly SSI checks by faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI if they can fake being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare.
AND THAT'S UNDER ONE IDENTITY---- evidence shows each illegal has several identities--all of them on the US gravy train. Plus the illegal doesn't worry about pricey items like car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance. And millions of illegal-owned stated income ALT-A mortgages that defaulted which American taxpayers are now footing the bill for.
you can’t make this stuff up.
BTT
The true cost of illegals is staggering!
My father is a quiet 66 year old man and a solid conservative. He considers what he says for a while before he says it.
When it comes to this talk about racism his thoughts were “Let Obama propose something conservative and see if we agree with him. If we do, that should show pretty clearly that we’re not racists.”
Of course he’s right - we disagree with Obama because his beliefs and political positions are wrong not because of his skin color - but the left will never go down that road because the racist straw man is too easy of a target to give up.
It's even more than that. The illegals' extended families (parents, siblings, children of siblings, etc.) would get amnesty as well. We could be looking at over 100 million new legal citizens. ...the vast majority of whom would register Donkey, of course.
We conservatives have a tall order ahead of us. Hussein's throwing a one-two punch in an effort to destroy America --- socialized medicine and amnesty. ...and he's doing it with a Dem congressional supermajority behind him.
“When the illegal immigrants get citizenship, would it not pay us to go where they came from?”
Mexico and other countries enforce their immigration laws...you can’t go there.
We need to change the message on this folks. They keep saying illegal aliens are not covered by insurance. But they also tell us that just about every other country in the world has insurance for their citizens and we’re the odd one out.
So - fine. If every other country has insurance for their citizens, then illegal aliens DO have health care insurance. We just need to have those illegal aliens send the bills to their insurance and get it paid.
If liberals get their way there will be millions of liberals RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN right into our country and hospitals... If we're not broke now - with bailouts everywhere - we will be with a few million more illegals on ObamaCare.
Oh boy this isn’t going to go over very well at all. Most people want the illegals sent home and this should push the disapproval of heatchcare reform to over 60% against !
“It’s even more than that. The illegals’ extended families (parents, siblings, children of siblings, etc.) would get amnesty as well. We could be looking at over 100 million new legal citizens. ...the vast majority of whom would register Donkey, of course.”
Precisely! The name of the game here is ‘if you can’t ‘change’ the country with the current population of hard headed conservative middle class, import poor, uneducated, easily led socialists!’
“Oh boy this isn’t going to go over very well at all. Most people want the illegals sent home and this should push the disapproval of heatchcare reform to over 60% against !”
IF...if the people find out what is going on! This media certainly isn’t going to inform them. They like their cheap third world nannies too much.
Rush Limbaugh is talking about this topic right now...
Amnesty for illegals is on the agenda so they can receive free and or subsidized health care. Approximately 20 million illegals.
The parasite factor was never more apparent:
Hamburger flippers and lawn mowers, trailing 3-4 kids, carrying bags and bags from shops in upscale stores.
Obviously they have "other incomes"........paid for by US taxpayers.
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