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Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care
washingtontimes.com ^ | 09.18.09 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 09/18/2009 4:40:57 AM PDT by VU4G10

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered - a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.

"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech..

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bhofascism; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine
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To: VU4G10
President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

Raise your hands, all who didn't see this coming.

61 posted on 09/18/2009 7:19:26 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I agree completely — Obama knows his role. He said himself he has a gift; he knows he’s charismatic, and a great speaker. But I think he’s only the face of the monster, not the brain or the muscle.


62 posted on 09/18/2009 7:20:44 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: 13Sisters76
Militarize the Border Guard along the lines of the Coast Guard. Build a couple of bases to house and support them. Give them full police powers.

Good idea, but apart from the fact that no POTUS since Eisenhower has made a serious effort to enforce immigration laws, you would need to change federal law:

The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the Federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

Plus of course you would expect ACLU etc. court challenges.

63 posted on 09/18/2009 7:25:38 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: VU4G10

bttt


64 posted on 09/18/2009 7:27:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Raise your hands, all who didn't see this coming.

Yep. That's why he's throwing the elderly baby boomer's under the bus. They're on their way out as democrat voters, so Oboma is going to give freebies to illegals to sure up their vote before he goes for the amnesty bill.
He's using the Death care bill to take the baby boomer's out early, because as long as they're around, they're going to vote Republican to stay alive. The democrats don't need them any more. They're expendable.

65 posted on 09/18/2009 7:27:44 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: AnglePark

In examining the “network”, one finds that many of the roads lead to George Soros. A disturbing number of them lead further East.


66 posted on 09/18/2009 7:33:09 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: VU4G10
It's just one battle after another...Lord give us strength.

sw

67 posted on 09/18/2009 7:33:25 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (WE THE PEOPLE RULE)
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To: VU4G10
Well, "The Plan" has finally been outed. Obama and the Democrats are going to buy 12,000,000 new voters with our tax money to make up for all the voters they've lost now that his plan to turn the U.S. into a socialistic society has become evident to many more people. This is the real reason the Dems caved on illegal aliens being covered by socialized health care, namely, now it's going to become they're new cry for converting the 12,000,000 illegal aliens into citizens so they're eligible for socialized health care.

If Obama pulls this off, our country is doomed as a bastion of free enterprise, innovation, increasing productivity and ever-increasing wealth, as we sink into the mediocrity and stagnancy of socialism and statism that has infected Europe.

We can only pray that Fox will cover this, because no one else will.

I remember the post from the other day that said this:

"If Obamacare passes, which I believe it will, expect Obama to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. It is part of the “deal” and Democrats that haven’t figured that out yet soon will. Expect Obama, Pelosi and Reid to push legislation for a fast track to citizenship, otherwise known as greasing the rails to the voting booth. It will pass because without it Democrats can kiss Congress goodbye. Expect federal funding of a massive voter registration drive to make sure these “new citizens” are not deprived of their right to vote, beginning in November, 2010. If the Democrats have done their homework, the numbers will break their way. If the main stream media provides the expected support, the swing voters will fall their way."

Communists and socialists have never been closer to taking over the United States and they know this is no time for timidity. Ignoring popular opinion is part of the game plan, as is marginalizing any opposition. It worked for three massive spending bills and it will work again. Some Democrats may lose their seats, but taking a hit for the party is a call to duty they will answer. Besides, as long as they control Congress post 2010, Democrats will control redistricting as a consequence of the census and the lost seats may be regained in 2012."

Excerpted from:

http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/rubolotta/2009/09152009.htm

68 posted on 09/18/2009 7:34:58 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


69 posted on 09/18/2009 9:23:20 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: concerned about politics
Yep. That's why he's throwing the elderly baby boomer's under the bus.

I agree, but it is a risky political calculation to swap a constituency you don't yet have for one that is already in place. Traditionally, the elderly voted Democratic, because they tended to get credit for social and medical programs for the retired.

70 posted on 09/18/2009 9:36:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: grey_whiskers; VU4G10
Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care
President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

Since principled opposition to such an idea is manifestly impossible, my opposition to it must arise from my innate antipathy to Obama's genetic provenance.

...

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

71 posted on 09/18/2009 9:40:18 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: WaterBoard

Circular illogic


72 posted on 09/18/2009 9:41:07 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: VU4G10

Is it time yet, Claire...?


73 posted on 09/18/2009 10:31:18 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama is only a Robert Mugabe with charisma - Judy McLeod)
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To: 13Sisters76

You need to add:

14th Amendment to be PROPERLY enforced. No future anchor babies. Rescind anchor baby citizenships less than 10 years in force.


74 posted on 09/18/2009 1:49:50 PM PDT by jimt
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To: jimt; All

“14th Amendment to be PROPERLY enforced. No future anchor babies. Rescind anchor baby citizenships less than 10 years in force.”

Indeed!

Giving automatic citizenship to illegal aliens
is a perversion of the 14th amendment!

“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.” Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

Californians! Get On the Bandwagon!
Taxpayer Protection Act of 2010 - end alien birthright citzenship!
Get The Petitions Pronto! http://www.taxpayerrevolution.org/


76 posted on 09/18/2009 1:56:40 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: VU4G10
The "immigration system" is not broken. The "immigration system" didn't bring the illegal aliens here ~ they came on their own.

All that is necessary is for them to return to their homes and get at the end of theline and take their turns.

They may take their children with them.

77 posted on 09/18/2009 5:51:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jimt

Yes! And rescind the legislation that allows chain immigration.


78 posted on 09/18/2009 7:24:30 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: grey_whiskers

Whoops, thanks grey_whiskers.


79 posted on 09/18/2009 8:37:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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