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The 'wise latina' is already hard at work.
1 posted on 09/17/2009 2:09:38 PM PDT by Admiral_Zeon
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To: Admiral_Zeon

She was at the Orioles game tonight.


186 posted on 09/17/2009 8:12:21 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Admiral_Zeon

An awful lot of conservatives would agree with what she’s suggesting here.


188 posted on 09/17/2009 8:14:26 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

From the same fool who said that precedent was so important regarding poor 19th century decisions in the 2nd Amendment.


189 posted on 09/17/2009 8:16:03 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Let's spin this that Sotomayor is arguing against corporate income taxes, if she thinks that it was the "court's error" that "Judges 'created corporations as persons, gave birth to corporations as persons...'"

-PJ

190 posted on 09/17/2009 8:20:18 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Comprehensive congressional reform legislation only yields incomprehensible bills that nobody reads.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon
She's correct.

Groups, unions, organizations, corporations, etc. don't have rights, they have privileges.

We are a Republic, based on the idea that individuals our endowed by our creator with Rights.

194 posted on 09/17/2009 8:59:44 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

I’m going to point out that indeed, “corporations” do not have rights, as only individuals can have rights, but the individuals on the corporations certainly have rights.


195 posted on 09/17/2009 9:14:13 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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To: Admiral_Zeon

Anybody who thinks Sotomayor is right of Ginsberg should check their brain brain at the door. Obama surrounded himself with radical communists. Sotomayor will prove to fit right in with that crowd.

Now I say again to all Conservatives who vote 3rd party instead of Republican, is this REALLY what you want all 9 of the SCOTUS justices to be like. Because that is what you are going to get if you keep voting against the Republicans for protest. The Republicans don’t get the message, and we end up with communists on the top bench.

We have one chance. Change the GOP. And that will mean finding Conservative candidates and donating money to their campaigns so they can beat their GOP picked rivals in the primaries. The only chance we have for smaller government, is to back true conservative Republicans and support them with our dollars and our votes. Every other tactic leads to socialism.

Just my 2 centavos.


197 posted on 09/17/2009 9:17:13 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 50... 49... 48...)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

The “wise Latina” apparently has a problem with private property and private ownership, as I suspect, our president does. This does not bode well.


198 posted on 09/17/2009 9:25:45 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Admiral_Zeon

If she wanted to start with a bang, this is a good way. Corporations are as non-constitutional as are political parties. To make matters worse, the board of directors of corporations may not even have a personal interest or stake in the corporation themselves, but are often professional proxies, paid representatives of other corporations that own stock. Such proxies may sit on the boards of several corporations.

This often creates a disconnect between corporate operations and corporate responsibilities. A corporation is *supposed* to work in the interests of its shareholders, which can mean many things. But what if a corporation is directed by its board to do things neither advantageous to their shareholders, *or* to the corporation itself?

For his innumerable faults, Jesse Jackson had one good idea, once, that I am in agreement with, at least partially. He called it the “corporate death penalty”. In essence, it would be much like a racketeering act specific to corporations. And not just to the individual corporation, but to those responsible individuals within the corporation.

The purpose of the corporate death penalty is for when a corporation commits a pattern of criminal activities, often in defiance of the law, because the penalties are so trivial, and the profits from violating the law are so great, they cannot resist breaking the law, repeatedly.

Today, if a corporation is absolved of misdeeds, either by falling apart or being consumed by another corporation, often the misdeeds are forgotten in the fray. And those individuals responsible for those misdeeds, often proxies, go on to commit the same and similar offenses in other corporations.

http://www.theyrule.net/

Importantly, the major corporations of the US are highly “incestuous”, as far as being controlled by a very small elite cadre of proxies and major shareholders. So in effect, this small group of people are the voice of the “civil rights” of corporations in the law. Perhaps it could be described as their having “super votes”, worth far more than the individual vote of a human citizen.

And this is a great cause of concern.


200 posted on 09/17/2009 9:28:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Wow, this thread is taking some scary twists and turns. I think Sotomayor may be looking for one of those mythical liberal penumbra’s that emanate from deranged minds. The “source” says

“Congress shall make no law ... or abridging the freedom of speech, ...”.

I don’t see anything there that says “except for ...” or that it applies only to a person acting individually. I don’t think my individual rights are forfeit when I join with others to exercise them in concert, including the money spent to exercise that right.

The “wise latina” (???) hard at work indeed.


202 posted on 09/17/2009 9:40:50 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Admiral_Zeon

Oh here we go...


211 posted on 09/17/2009 10:30:39 PM PDT by Libertina (Don't Tread on Us)
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To: Admiral_Zeon; Carry_Okie

I’m not the right guy to argue this matter, but I do believe that corporations don’t just get a voice, but at this time they get a super-voice. Their pockets are deep and their ability to squash individual concerns is real.

While I do believe corporation’s concerns are concerns on behalf of the public who own parcels of that corporation, I still think there are some valid questions of just how much power corporations have, vs Joe Citizen.

I believe folks like Carry Okie would be able to explain this far better than I can.

I’m not a big fan of SoSo, so don’t get me wrong. I’m going to oppose her constantly over the upcoming decades. Still, in this instance, there may be ‘some’ validity to her reasoning.

How much is not for me to say.


213 posted on 09/17/2009 10:38:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Wearing neck brace in commemoration of Ted Kennedy's contribution to our society.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

I’ve read a lot of brilliant legal analysis on this thread but the fact remains that if corporations are weakened we all are at the mercy of unions like SEIU.


219 posted on 09/17/2009 11:34:48 PM PDT by TheThinker
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Holy Hanna! I don't believe she made this leap of logic! I posted this during another discussion: Corporations are granted and have privileges, not rights!
222 posted on 09/18/2009 12:48:43 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! Â)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

Then she must be against union donations, 527s, and so on. Except she’ll justify these entities giving campaign contributions under some ‘wise’ rationale (convoluted BS).


224 posted on 09/18/2009 2:11:12 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

I wasn’t aware that the SCOTUS was “pro-active” but rather re-active...


227 posted on 09/18/2009 3:42:44 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

Right out of the gate...

234 posted on 09/18/2009 6:59:04 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Next....the chosen one false messiah long legged mack daddy will appoint her...
247 posted on 09/18/2009 8:10:28 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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Sotomayor and ACORN Joined at the Hip
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/07/sotomayor_and_acorn_joined_at.html


249 posted on 09/18/2009 8:22:13 AM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Admiral_Zeon

Uhh - excuse me, but corporations do typically employ PEOPLE.


254 posted on 09/18/2009 10:13:23 AM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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