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Why All the Fuss? Because America Remains a Conservative Country
Men's News Daily ^ | 9/16/2009 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 09/17/2009 12:39:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/17/2009 12:39:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: tioga; Texan5; NeoCaveman; VRWCmember

I think he’s got it right.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 12:45:42 PM PDT by secret garden (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Till the republicans take charge again, then America becomes liberal again.

Try “American is a ‘what’s in it for me’ country”


3 posted on 09/17/2009 12:53:40 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, redistribution is the government spending you demand")
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To: secret garden

The other point that the author of this piece should have made is that 0bama pretty well bought the Presidency. He outspent McCain by what, three to one?

I never put too much stock in the power of propaganda/advertising, but 0bama getting elected sure changed my mind!


4 posted on 09/17/2009 12:54:31 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: SeekAndFind
No thoughts on ACORN's role in all this?

What would the election have been like had there been no ACORN, no Black Panther thugs, etc.?

5 posted on 09/17/2009 12:57:07 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: secret garden

makes pretty good sense to me......


6 posted on 09/17/2009 12:57:34 PM PDT by tioga (Drip, Drip, Drip.......the ACORNS are falling.)
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To: secret garden
He says that self-identified "conservatives" outnumber self-identified "liberals" 40%-20%. But that leaves another 40% who do not so self-identify. And I think that the reason for the election of Obama lies there.

That, and conservative vote suppression by John McCain . . .


7 posted on 09/17/2009 1:03:51 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (SPENDING without representation is tyranny. To represent us you have to READ THE BILLS.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Agreed,


8 posted on 09/17/2009 1:05:25 PM PDT by secret garden (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PreciousLiberty

RE :”The other point that the author of this piece should have made is that 0bama pretty well bought the Presidency. He outspent McCain by what, three to one?’

Yes but Honest John McCain followed the spirit of Campaign reform and took public funding. That got him many votes too, LOL .... jerk!

The article is accurate, it was anti- republican not pro-liberal , and much of 1994 vote was NOT pro-cut social spending as we hoped. The best election wins come from the other side having power.


9 posted on 09/17/2009 1:15:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, redistribution is the government spending you demand")
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To: SeekAndFind
"What the country elected, however, was an appealing politician campaigning under a nebulous, catch-all-be-all banner of “change.” Americans didn’t cast ballots in favor of Barack Obama’s sweeping left-wing ideological preferences—which they knew little about, in part thanks to the same liberal media now fuming at the protesters. They voted for personality; they elected Obama, not his politics. Obama didn’t get a “progressive” mandate."

Worth repeating--but we must not simply accept that it was due to the fact that it was primarily a result of the "liberal media." Even now, folks like many at Fox continue to claim that he campaigned as a centrist or moderate, giving cover to the claim that American citizens bought something other than what they are getting.

No, he campaigned as who he was--a part-term Senator whose voting record was the most liberal of any of the Senators, who appeared over and over at meetings of Far Left groups and stated the reasons why their members should vote for him.

Yes, he made, and continues to make, statements using the semantics and "words" of conservatives, but anyone other than the most gullible citizen must be held responsible for projecting upon him whatever their own views were. He certainly had no history or documentation for being anything but a person whose redistributionist ideas would dominate his presidency.

Fox's "fair and balanced" crew do a disservice when they misrepresent what happened, for it may tend to perpetuate the notion that voters are mere innocents who have no obligation to dig behind a candidate's words before they hand over the power that goes with political office at the highest level. Facts and records are powerful things. If ABC, CBS, NBC and the other now "fringe" media don't see fit to warn the citizenry of dangers to their liberty, then the media that is truly "mainstream" must step up to the plate and do a better job of alerting citizens to the contrast between the politician's words and all previous actions.

The Founders said "an enlightened and informed" citizenry would be required to protect liberty. Two hundred years is a long time, but their words remain legitimate guides today.

10 posted on 09/17/2009 1:24:18 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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How do you explain all the people who are now against Obama’s policy. Do you believe these people would have still voted for him had “The Media” vetted him like they should have. I know friends that would not have voted for him if they knew he smoked! ...and thats just one small issue.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 1:41:36 PM PDT by FenderMan
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To: SeekAndFind

“America Remains a Conservative Country”

The people do, but not the government. Therein lies a big problem.


12 posted on 09/17/2009 1:43:56 PM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: SeekAndFind

From what he says, it sounds as if many (too many?) people don’t pay much attention to politics, and when November Presidential election comes around after four years of not thinking about politics, maybe they think they can have a Liberal President believing like Ronald Reagan.

It’s absurd, but maybe true.


13 posted on 09/17/2009 1:48:38 PM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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The people do, but not the government. Therein lies a big problem.

The people maybe conservative, but they don't pay attention and are very easily lulled into believing a politician who tells them what they want to hear ( hiding his true agenda ).

Thus, they vote for someone who does not share their ideology and then later suffer buyer's (really, voter's ) remorse.

But by then, the damage is done.
14 posted on 09/17/2009 1:52:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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...self-identified "conservatives" outnumber self-identified "liberals" 40%-20%. But that leaves another 40% who do not so self-identify.

And I think that the reason for the election of Obama lies there.

You're exactly right.

Two major factors elected Obama.

1. Most of the squishy moderate middle bought his "Hope & Change" baloney, and

2. Many conservatives stayed home, even with the addition of Sarah Palin to the Republican ticket.

This same squishy middle are the ones most acutely afflicted with buyer's remorse right now. They're also the ones who will guarantee a return to sanity in the upcoming mid-term elections and the 2012 presidential election.

15 posted on 09/17/2009 1:55:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The people maybe conservative, but they don’t pay attention and are very easily lulled into believing a politician who tells them what they want to hear ( hiding his true agenda ).

Thus, they vote for someone who does not share their ideology and then later suffer buyer’s (really, voter’s ) remorse.

But by then, the damage is done.”

That’s right.


16 posted on 09/17/2009 2:14:45 PM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: RoadTest
Well, I am one person that recognized the hallmarks of a first class snake-oil salesman. He had to many weasel worded statements in his speeches, and there was a low-key background noise about his friends. I didn't vote for him because he was just too damned smooth.
17 posted on 09/17/2009 2:21:47 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: SeekAndFind
Virtually no one who voted for 0bama did so on the basis of his policies, which were kept deliberately vague or entirely unexpressed. Now we see his policies. They turn out to be worse than most of us feared.

It's just as I said at the time - you can run as "not-Bush" but you can't govern as "not-Bush." It isn't a position, it's a reflection.

18 posted on 09/17/2009 2:23:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

As Rush says, Americans live right and vote left - this last time they voted more left than usual never dreaming the one would be as extreme as he’s been.


19 posted on 09/17/2009 2:29:23 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s a good rule of thumb: disenchantment with the GOP is not the same thing as a shift to the left. Especially when the last guy in the White House was named Bush.


20 posted on 09/17/2009 2:45:06 PM PDT by murdoog ("Always love your country—but never trust your government" Robert Novak)
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