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More 9/12 Crowd Data: Yeah, It Was Big
Pajamas Media ^ | Sept. 16 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 09/17/2009 7:35:48 AM PDT by AJKauf

* The Daily Mail first reported 2 million, then scaled it back to 1.2 million. * Barbara Espinosa reported that actual traffic counters from the march organizers reported about 450,000 crossing Pennsylvania at 11th after about an hour of the march, and nearly 1.5 million total. * There was also the time-lapse photoset from the traffic camera over the Freedom Plaza, which is where 14th St NW crosses Pennsylvania Avenue at E street. * Our own estimate of more than 850,000. * The Noble and Ancient Order of the Gormogons, with an estimate of about 1 million. * Another estimate by Henry Vanderbilt, reported at Transterrestrial Musings. Using two different methods, Vanderbilt arrived at one estimate of up to 320,000 in the march down Pennsylvania alone, and 350,000 to 500,000 on the Mall and Capitol grounds. * The estimate of 350,000 from Political Gumbo — and let me just mention: this is the way it’s done, kiddies. Ken Vaughn looked at my computation, made his own, documented his assumptions, and came out with a different number for the number marching on Pennsylvania Ave. Frankly, from his argument, I probably trust this estimate over my original one; remember that it’s only the marchers, though, so it’s certainly a lower bound number as well...

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1 posted on 09/17/2009 7:35:48 AM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

The official Obama Stream Media count is 10’s of thousands.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 7:38:08 AM PDT by Always Right (Equal Opportunity Hater....)
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To: AJKauf

I am sure the ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNN will report this as a gather of right wing, fringe racists who dress funny. And Maxine Waters will wonder why they were not interrogated.


3 posted on 09/17/2009 7:38:56 AM PDT by pikachu (Be alert! We need more lerts!)
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To: AJKauf

The lesson here is that future marches and demonstrations need to do some work in advance to have some method for getting an accurate crowd count. I can think of at least a dozen different approaches, any one of which would be more accurate than the current practice of everyone issuing their own guess.

One of the big differences between liberal and conservative gatherings in DC is that conservatives want a good, reliable and accurate crowd count. Liberals, OTOH, don’t want an accurate count, they prefer to make up their own figures.

Go figure.


4 posted on 09/17/2009 7:40:08 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: AJKauf

Sadly it doesn’t matter now. The media has finished the reporting, other than branding them racists and O’reilly has put in his 2 cents.

The event has been marginalized. I asked many people I know about it and they either didn’t know or said it was too bad the crowd wasn’t bigger.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 7:40:44 AM PDT by kezzek
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To: Always Right

The “official” count that O’Reilly accepted was 75,000.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 7:41:33 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: AJKauf

O’REILLY insists it was 70,000.


7 posted on 09/17/2009 7:41:38 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Always Right

They will finally cop to the correct estimates only as a reason to show how out of control and wisespread the ‘right wing whacko racists/terrorists’ have become and MUST be dealt with and reigned in.

Betcha....


8 posted on 09/17/2009 7:42:01 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Change you can believe in...Revolution you must pay for.)
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To: AJKauf

I wonder if they’d report a more accurate count had they all been armed?


9 posted on 09/17/2009 7:42:26 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: WKUHilltopper

O’Reilly’s a complete tool. I heard him last night bending over backward to defend Obama and it was pathetic.


10 posted on 09/17/2009 7:42:47 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Can we trade in the clunker we have in the White House?)
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To: WKUHilltopper
O’REILLY insists it was 70,000.

And I sent an angry email to Fox about that. The guy shouldn't be reporting every piece of BS that rolls of the AP teletype.

12 posted on 09/17/2009 7:43:34 AM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Always Right
" The official Obama Stream Media count is 10’s of thousands and report only 10s of ACORNs/COI involved in the ACORN scandal. "

There now, fixed...

Seems to be a major pattern here developing here with the Main Fringe Media...
13 posted on 09/17/2009 7:43:37 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: AJKauf
The Boob Czar has declared the March on Washington a huge success March on Washington,Tea Party,Boob Czar
14 posted on 09/17/2009 7:45:03 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: Always Right
In one of Pennsylvania's rags, the headline read:

“SCORES RALLY IN D.C. TO PROTEST OBAMACARE”

Is not the mainstream (state-run) media pathetic?

15 posted on 09/17/2009 7:45:32 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The only reason I still watch O’Reilly is for the guests and Dennis Miller. When Juan Williams and Alam Colmes and other lily livered liberals are on I put the tv on mute.


16 posted on 09/17/2009 7:48:41 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: jwparkerjr
" The lesson here is that future marches and demonstrations need to do some work in advance to have some method for getting an accurate crowd count. I can think of at least a dozen different approaches, any one of which would be more accurate than the current practice of everyone issuing their own guess. "





17 posted on 09/17/2009 7:49:37 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: WKUHilltopper
My official count was 38. And they are all racists that drive pickup trucks with floodlights and ring mounted machine guns on top. And they are homophobes and gynophobes. And they all roast kittens for breakfast. And they show their children crush videos.

Not one of them went to a good university like Harvard , Yale or Columbia and they spend their Saturday evenings burning crosses.

Okay, maybe there were 39.

18 posted on 09/17/2009 7:50:34 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: AJKauf

The minumum estimate should be 300,000 to 400,000. We were told to stay off the mall because they did not have a permit to be there. (There was another event taking place there as well.) That caused people to spread out all around the capitol building. Plus, the march had to start early because Freedom Square was overflowing. Many people like myself were leaving early and I’m sure there were many late arrivals due to the Metro system being overloaded.

GOE has a good report here:
http://nygoe.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/aar-march-on-washington-91209/


19 posted on 09/17/2009 7:52:08 AM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Always Right
The official Obama Stream Media count is 10’s of thousands.

This article along with several images can easily be used to prove that the mainstream media is biased. Again. With each new piece of proof, more and more people will discover that truth.

20 posted on 09/17/2009 7:54:20 AM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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